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The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by stinos »

BorisMelnik wrote: post #3

Yikes - if Microsoft would just focus on what they are doing right, and perfecting that (Windows, MSDN, etc) they might have a chance at avoiding these constant and public "fails." I understand every enterprise level business needs to try new things, but it really just seems as thought they need to leave mobile / tablets alone as hard as it may be for them to hear until they have an MVP that murders it and people can…

avoiding these constant and public "fails."

Not sure that is possible (1), let alone it would help much (2).

(1) From all OS'es installable on a whole range of hardware devices and usable by hordes of different types of users I don't think I have ever met one that hasn't had a single problem.

(2) Even if there were 1 billion cases in which everything was ok, the one case where there was a fail would still be spread out all over the media. Like this one.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by wvenable »

I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook.

I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset it, some time later it go back to 100%.

I'm not one to leave something like that alone and after a lot of searching the internet and applying updates I found that someone else had discovered the cause. The stock trackpad driver was responsible for constantly changing that power setting!! I found a different version for another laptop and that fixed it.

But just imagine how many people that own this exact laptop and it's always hot and gets terrible battery life. All that power management technology and passive cooling completely wasted because of one driver.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by mahouse »

rtpg wrote: post #4

I wonder what the Surface experience is like, I can only hope it's better. This also reminds me of when I got world of warcraft CDs and had to spend almost 48 hours just to patch up to the most recent version.

That WoW thing was so painful. I still remember the old Burning Crusade days. 48 hours falls short.

But, still, by that time I was a kid, and thus it felt like a magical experience...

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by easytiger »

There is so much stuff in Windows 8 that I have no idea how it got out of the building. Really incomprehensible. Clearly a cancerous culture in Microsoft ala BlackBerry letting small but insane design choices out the door

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by withdavidli »

rtpg wrote: post #4

I wonder what the Surface experience is like, I can only hope it's better. This also reminds me of when I got world of warcraft CDs and had to spend almost 48 hours just to patch up to the most recent version.

My experience with the S3 was less than stellar. Returned it within a month. Defective battery, UI on apps were bad (icons inaccessible depending on size of window), didn't like the keyboard either.

My parents, very basic knowledge of computers, bought a cheap $300 laptop recently. I'm across the country from them now and it's agonizing trying to give step by step directions over the phone. The computer wouldn't connect to certain routers and slow on other routers. Most things were fixed after an update to the OS, but that's kind of hard when the thing has trouble connecting to the internet in the first place.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by cabirum »

What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that.

It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by dingdingdang »

cabirum wrote: post #18

What did you expect from a $250 device? Or, what did you expect from an 8″ 1200x800 tablet with just 2gb ram and 32gb ssd which comes with a full Windows OS, instead of Win RT? Some phones have more powerful hardware than that. It's not Microsoft's fault that Asus decided to sell a cheap, untested, poorly-built device. It's your fault, as a tech-savvy customer, to buy it.

OP explicitly states that the machine was part of Microsoft's "Signature Device" program and as such MS certainly has a responsibility for allowing these hardware specs onto the street. Nonetheless, I totally agree with notion that I would personally never have been caught in that situation due to being able to read tech specs and having internalized rough idea of Windows performance in relation to hardware setup...

Re: The Windows Incident – Day 0

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Post by cnvogel »

wvenable wrote: post #13

I had a similar experience with my Asus Zenbook Prime ultrabook. I noticed that the very loud fan was running a lot faster and more frequently than it should. I checked the power settings and minimum processor state was 100%. I changed it to a more reasonable number and all was good. But 10-15 minutes later the fan would come back on full blast because that setting has been reverted back to 100%! Every time I reset i…

"our driver has a race condition which makes the track pad lock up sometimes, but it only happens when the computer is in powersave. We either need 5 man years to put proper locking of data structures in our horrible spaghetti code , or let Bob's nephew copy and paste this code from the Internet that overrides the windows power profile every 5 minutes "
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