Shall we fork Fedora? • Hacker News Board

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#11

Post by jbb555 » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:33 PM UTC

Trying to work out which linux dist to switch to. Obviously one that doesn't use systemd. So what choices do I have?

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#12

Post by n0body » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:34 PM UTC

jbb555 wrote: post #11

Trying to work out which linux dist to switch to. Obviously one that doesn't use systemd. So what choices do I have?

why not one that uses systemd?

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#13

Post by giancarlostoro » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:39 PM UTC

I wish Fedora had PPA's, I had to ditch it for Ubuntu, got fed up of having to compile everything I wanted to use.

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#14

Post by 23david » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:40 PM UTC

As a 'devops', I've been sometimes saddled with the unfortunate task of bridging the communication gap between Sysadmins/TechOps and Devs.

Although there are technical arguments here on both sides, I really hope that this 'SystemD vs Freedom Of Choice in Init Systems' discussion gets resolved in a way that doesn't create further divisions.

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#15

Post by cwyers » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:43 PM UTC

From the debianfork.org page, which this is apparently mocking:

"Why don't you do that yourselves? We are excluded from voting on the issue: only few of us have the time and patience to interact with Debian on a voluntary basis."

If you don't have the time and patience to contribute to a project like Debian, how are you planning to muster up the time and patience to run a full-on FORK of Debian?

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#16

Post by kolev » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:44 PM UTC

giancarlostoro wrote: post #13

I wish Fedora had PPA's, I had to ditch it for Ubuntu, got fed up of having to compile everything I wanted to use.

There's Fedora Copr [1].

[1] https://copr.fedoraproject.org/

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#17

Post by makomk » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:45 PM UTC

hunt wrote: post #4

I rolled my eyes at the title after watching "Linux Sucks 2014" last night. I was pleasantly surprised to see an example comparison of init files.

I'm not sure it's exactly a fair comparison though; the right-hand file is shorter and simpler largely because they've split the work of the old init script across at least three files: the one shown, /etc/mail/make (which presumably now contains the messy preparatory work that made up most of the old init file), and sm-client.service. You could do that with traditional init if you wanted.

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#18

Post by Xylemon » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:46 PM UTC

jbb555 wrote: post #11

Trying to work out which linux dist to switch to. Obviously one that doesn't use systemd. So what choices do I have?

Slackware or Gentoo is an option.

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#19

Post by octix » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:47 PM UTC

giancarlostoro wrote: post #13

I wish Fedora had PPA's, I had to ditch it for Ubuntu, got fed up of having to compile everything I wanted to use.

Can you give a few examples, please? I've been using Fedora as my primary home and work OS, since v14 and was gradually upgrading it and so far I never needed to compile anything.

Re: Shall we fork Fedora?

#20

Post by kolev » Mon, Oct 20, 2014, 4:47 PM UTC

This is unfair. You can actually do a shared shell library that other services use and also have just a few lines service definitions.