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Apple unveils a new Mac Mini

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Re: Apple unveils a new Mac Mini

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Did they drop the server version?

the server edition really was the same but had no cd drive in lieu of an optional second hdd, and it came pre-installed with OSX server (which most wiped anyways in favor of a linux or BSD flavor)

The second drive was useful because you could RAID the boot volume using Disk Utility, and then use 3rd party software to RAID external USB drives. Cheaper than what appears to be their new plan for data reliability: Buy an expensive Thunderbolt RAID enclosure.

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the server edition really was the same but had no cd drive in lieu of an optional second hdd, and it came pre-installed with OSX server (which most wiped anyways in favor of a linux or BSD flavor)

The second drive was useful because you could RAID the boot volume using Disk Utility, and then use 3rd party software to RAID external USB drives. Cheaper than what appears to be their new plan for data reliability: Buy an expensive Thunderbolt RAID enclosure.

unlikely you'd actually need the full 10Gbps from the thunderbolt. As you said, they are way overpriced since Apple is really the only company using Thunderbolt.

You could try out a USB3 external as a possible alternative, 6Gbps is still likely faster than even an array of SSD's.

Re: Apple unveils a new Mac Mini

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Intel NUC uses low TDP mobile CPUs. The new Mini uses regular TDP mobile CPUs. The fastest NUC tops at 1.3GHz with Intel HD 5000 graphics. The new Mini tops at 3.0GHz with Intel Iris graphics. If you are refering to compact desktop computers there aren't many (none?) that use regular TDP mobile CPUs, have Intel Iris graphics and are virtually silent. The only ones that are similar or have better specs are the Gigabyt…

Gigabyte has a model[1] with the Intel Iris Pro 5200 graphics which includes a 128 MB L4 DRAM cache. The Iris Pro is a big jump up[2] from the Iris 5000 graphics. [1]: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4888 [2]: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8175/gigabyte-brix-pro-a-secon...

And it's still cheaper than the best new Mac Mini, and it will way way out perform it.

That BRIX you linked to has a quad core with hyper threading (8 threads), and Iris Pro graphics (you can do some gaming with this, not just hi-def video).

And when outfited with 16GB of RAM, and a 240GB SSD, this puppy is what the new Mac Mini should have been. (only this is cheaper!)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemLi...

And according to this review, it sips about 82w at full throttle:

http://www.missingremote.com/review/gigabyte-brix-pro-gb-bxi...

So, it uses less power than the Mac Mini, busting Apple's claim that their new Mac Mini is the "lowest power computer in the world".

All-in-all, you'd have to be a fool to buy the new Mini. Especially given we can expect the current (new) Mini hardware to be the same for another 2-3 years without a refresh, and given the difficulty you will have trying to upgrade it with more RAM, HDD, etc.

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Gigabyte has a model[1] with the Intel Iris Pro 5200 graphics which includes a 128 MB L4 DRAM cache. The Iris Pro is a big jump up[2] from the Iris 5000 graphics. [1]: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4888 [2]: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8175/gigabyte-brix-pro-a-secon...

And it's still cheaper than the best new Mac Mini, and it will way way out perform it. That BRIX you linked to has a quad core with hyper threading (8 threads), and Iris Pro graphics (you can do some gaming with this, not just hi-def video). And when outfited with 16GB of RAM, and a 240GB SSD, this puppy is what the new Mac Mini should have been. (only this is cheaper!) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetail…

Only missing feature is the ability to run Mac OS X without a bunch of weird hacks and instability. :(

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And it's still cheaper than the best new Mac Mini, and it will way way out perform it. That BRIX you linked to has a quad core with hyper threading (8 threads), and Iris Pro graphics (you can do some gaming with this, not just hi-def video). And when outfited with 16GB of RAM, and a 240GB SSD, this puppy is what the new Mac Mini should have been. (only this is cheaper!) http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetail…

Only missing feature is the ability to run Mac OS X without a bunch of weird hacks and instability. :(

who says I want to run Mac OS X? ;-P

I would of bought the mini then wiped it anyways. I've found Linux to be a much better home server/build server anyways. And now that Steam is on Linux, I could game on the same box. Great setup.

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Intel NUC uses low TDP mobile CPUs. The new Mini uses regular TDP mobile CPUs. The fastest NUC tops at 1.3GHz with Intel HD 5000 graphics. The new Mini tops at 3.0GHz with Intel Iris graphics. If you are refering to compact desktop computers there aren't many (none?) that use regular TDP mobile CPUs, have Intel Iris graphics and are virtually silent. The only ones that are similar or have better specs are the Gigabyt…

Gigabyte has a model[1] with the Intel Iris Pro 5200 graphics which includes a 128 MB L4 DRAM cache. The Iris Pro is a big jump up[2] from the Iris 5000 graphics. [1]: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4888 [2]: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8175/gigabyte-brix-pro-a-secon...

Yes, I know. I had one of those. It uses a "special" 65W TDP desktop class CPU. The cooling solution is pretty crappy and noisy as hell.

Re: Apple unveils a new Mac Mini

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Gigabyte has a model[1] with the Intel Iris Pro 5200 graphics which includes a 128 MB L4 DRAM cache. The Iris Pro is a big jump up[2] from the Iris 5000 graphics. [1]: http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4888 [2]: http://www.anandtech.com/show/8175/gigabyte-brix-pro-a-secon...

Yes, I know. I had one of those. It uses a "special" 65W TDP desktop class CPU. The cooling solution is pretty crappy and noisy as hell.

Sounds like a fault in the cooling solution. I'm sure Apple could find a way to dissipate 65W in a Mac Mini chassis.

There's also 47/55W mobile processors with Iris Pro, one of which Apple uses in the 15" rMBP. Several historical unibody Mac Mini models had a 45 W processor.

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Only missing feature is the ability to run Mac OS X without a bunch of weird hacks and instability. :(

who says I want to run Mac OS X? ;-P I would of bought the mini then wiped it anyways. I've found Linux to be a much better home server/build server anyways. And now that Steam is on Linux, I could game on the same box. Great setup.

Maybe you don't, but people considering a Mac Mini probably do.

I tried running a Hackintosh, and gave up after the third instance of unrecoverable disk corruption. :(

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