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Re: How Google Works

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I started work at google pretty recently, and expressed an interest in working on a particular project. I made some notes about some of my ideas, and was putting some stuff together to show to one of the teams, to get some input before prototyping. I asked a senior team member to have a look at the notes I had made, and see if they were ready to show to the wider team. His advice? "Go build something, then we can hav…

Inspiring and made me change my thinking.

Gracias.

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My hope is that this is partly the case due to what is often lamented as an endemic sense of entitlement in Generation Y. Capable, well-off, "smart creatives," having been raised to believe that they can and will make a positive impact if only they try hard enough and make the right decisions. Cumulatively (not collectively, yet), they demand the conditions they need to execute and to feel like they're getting a fair…

Once again downvoting a perfectly fine post with no indication exactly what your fucking problem is in the first place. Good job, HN.

Comment too complicated. Needs discussion. HN kryptonite.

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The motivation of Google is not even discussed here. Why do you want to create a certain environment for "smart creatives?" Oh yeah, almost forgot... so they'll make products that will make Google lots of money. This always leads to a logic contradiction. If they are so smart and creative, why do they need Google? Everyone knows if you create the next g-mail you still walk in on Monday and get a salary, not equity. You might get a huge bonus, or Google might choose get another airliner instead. That's a risk you'll be taking.

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“As a result, barriers to entry that have stood for decades are melting away. Every incumbent business is vulnerable to competition and disruption.” Upper middle class dudes from elite academic institutions create businesses. What's the new thing? Maybe I'm misstating this and I'm just going to piss away what few points I have less, but hasn't business always been this way? Railroads killed the stagecoach, the lightb…

He's talking about the prospects of businesses taking on incumbent businesses, not the chances for individuals. Incumbents like the regulated taxi industry or Borders Books don't just roll over for new challengers no matter where the new firm's CEO went to college.

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These slides are a summary (introduction? teaser?) for Schmidt and Rosenberg's new book, How Google Works[1]. 1. http://www.howgoogleworks.net/

Which had an interesting reception among Googlers.

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I started work at google pretty recently, and expressed an interest in working on a particular project. I made some notes about some of my ideas, and was putting some stuff together to show to one of the teams, to get some input before prototyping. I asked a senior team member to have a look at the notes I had made, and see if they were ready to show to the wider team. His advice? "Go build something, then we can hav…

I was under the impression that the work load at Google is so heavy that it is almost impossible to get "20% time" anymore. During what time did you work on your idea? Are they freeing you of all responsibilities to build your prototype or do they expect you to do it in your free time and then donate it to the company?

Thanks, I'm very curious about this aspect of Google's culture.

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“As a result, barriers to entry that have stood for decades are melting away. Every incumbent business is vulnerable to competition and disruption.” Upper middle class dudes from elite academic institutions create businesses. What's the new thing? Maybe I'm misstating this and I'm just going to piss away what few points I have less, but hasn't business always been this way? Railroads killed the stagecoach, the lightb…

Tsssh, please don't wake me up from my startup dreams! But you are right, it happens very rarely that an individual creates a billion-dollar disruptive sexy cool company without the specific kind of socio-eoconomic background you mentioned. On the other hand, one can live a perfectly fine life off a small business with a local scope and - I think - that's not in the unreachable zone unless you are starting from the other extreme side of the society.

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My hope is that this is partly the case due to what is often lamented as an endemic sense of entitlement in Generation Y. Capable, well-off, "smart creatives," having been raised to believe that they can and will make a positive impact if only they try hard enough and make the right decisions. Cumulatively (not collectively, yet), they demand the conditions they need to execute and to feel like they're getting a fair…

Once again downvoting a perfectly fine post with no indication exactly what your fucking problem is in the first place. Good job, HN.

Disregard early downvotes. Voting still mostly balances out in the end.

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In addition to obviously selling the upcoming book this also seems to be selling Google to potential "smart creative" types. Kind of saying that Google is the one which has the ability to give "smart creative" types the freedom they need to flourish. So in addition to selling copies of the book Eric is also selling Google to potential employees.

Re: How Google Works

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The motivation of Google is not even discussed here. Why do you want to create a certain environment for "smart creatives?" Oh yeah, almost forgot... so they'll make products that will make Google lots of money. This always leads to a logic contradiction. If they are so smart and creative, why do they need Google? Everyone knows if you create the next g-mail you still walk in on Monday and get a salary, not equity. Y…

"Smart and Creative" does not mean "Lucrative". Less cynically, one might consider it a virtuous circle. Google gives smart and creative people a chance to organize into small teams and innovate. When some of those projects become lucrative, more smart and creative people can be hired, and so on.

I've certainly found myself at odds between projects I'd Love to tackle versus bills that Have to get paid. After enough failures and false starts, it becomes less personal risk and more general survival. I look forward to going out on my own again and trying some more, but I need to contribute to my current employer first as I save up the energy and resources for my next personal endeavor.

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