It's not fair and I think she's really mean.
The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
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Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
I particularly liked his last line: But when you're between the devil and the deep blue sea, you need to stop worrying about pirates, and adjust your sails. It seems particularly apt in the current state of the internet.
It breaks the analogy, though. When you have the devil to pay, adjusting your sails won't do any good. Pirates or not.
I believe that was a pun. "Adjust your sales".
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#13Terrific (and probably effective) song. Half way through Dan Bull implied that he took the background score from one of Lily's songs. He did, but he never properly gave credit at the end of the clip. And that's just not cool. Even if you think that music should be in the public domain (like I believe all university papers should be) you still must never use something without giving credit where it's due. It only took…
It's like 4 chords and a drum beat.
Do you really need to give credit for that? (I know legally the answer is likely yes, but I don't think it should be).
Imagine if we had to give credit for each 4 lines of code that had already been used by someone else :/
Or a painter who had to give credit for a certain way of drawing a beard.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#14I'm glad to see that the artist who performed this isn't just talking about it, he's actually doing what he says. I poked around a little ways, got to his MySpace page, and found this: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&... , where he not only provides the link to buy his newest album, but he also provides a link to download it too ( http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMMBYOTZ ). As a side note, I don'…
Lily Allen's career took off because of her myspace page as she uploaded songs/videos. In her case, she never needed a website.
Being Keith Allen's daughter helped too.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#15Terrific (and probably effective) song. Half way through Dan Bull implied that he took the background score from one of Lily's songs. He did, but he never properly gave credit at the end of the clip. And that's just not cool. Even if you think that music should be in the public domain (like I believe all university papers should be) you still must never use something without giving credit where it's due. It only took…
It's like 4 chords and a drum beat. Do you really need to give credit for that? (I know legally the answer is likely yes, but I don't think it should be). Imagine if we had to give credit for each 4 lines of code that had already been used by someone else :/ Or a painter who had to give credit for a certain way of drawing a beard.
If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely:
- 4 chords - a drum beat - a $5,000 microphone to record the guitar so it sounds like that - a $3000 keyboard to make the piano sound like that - $10,000 in drum gear to get them to sound that way
etc. etc. etc.
I symapathize with people who want credit for samples. A lot of work and money goes into making pop music pop the way it does.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#16I'm usually not a music person. But this is brilliant. The amount of effort that must have gone into making something like this... Timing the typing and speaking to the rhythm. It helps that I disagree with the modern state of IP. I hope it goes viral. Dear Lily, why you being so silly...
Well there's software that can help with that ;) But yes, I love the execution, a great combination of serious argument and witty presentation. Another few years of Autotune development and we can have plugins that render HN as opera.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#17Not that I really care, but I'm sick of some of the bogus pro-filesharing arguments. Downloads don't equate to lost revenue? Maybe not exactly, in that not all downloads represent a lost sale, but my monthly CD budget went from about $50 to $0 after Napster came out. I know I'm not the only one.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#18It's not fair and I think she's really mean.
I certainly understand your pun on Lilly Allen's song yet I must say that we can't really complain about artists complaining about pirating. Sure Lilly Allen might have gone a little overboard, but its a valid complaint.
Artists need to be paid just like everyone else. The fact that they get paid so much more money than most of the rest of us do is irrelevant. It doesn't mean we are entitled to steal from them. If you are pirating music then you are cheating the artist. And if you enjoy the song why steal it? I mean you can probably buy it off iTunes for 99 cents to a $1.29
That said, I must admit that I enjoyed Dan Bull's song. It is funny, but I don't think that pirating is funny.
We can't force everybody to go open source, and we certainly shouldn't complain when other people complain about getting their work stolen and distributed without getting any benefit from it.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#19Earlier quoted context omitted.
It's like 4 chords and a drum beat. Do you really need to give credit for that? (I know legally the answer is likely yes, but I don't think it should be). Imagine if we had to give credit for each 4 lines of code that had already been used by someone else :/ Or a painter who had to give credit for a certain way of drawing a beard.
If he used the actual sample from the song then it's more likely: - 4 chords - a drum beat - a $5,000 microphone to record the guitar so it sounds like that - a $3000 keyboard to make the piano sound like that - $10,000 in drum gear to get them to sound that way etc. etc. etc. I symapathize with people who want credit for samples. A lot of work and money goes into making pop music pop the way it does.
That's a big 'if'. He said 'cover version' which I take to mean he played and recorded it himself.
Re: The last word on Lily Allen and her anti-filesharing campaign
#20I'm glad to see that the artist who performed this isn't just talking about it, he's actually doing what he says. I poked around a little ways, got to his MySpace page, and found this: http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&... , where he not only provides the link to buy his newest album, but he also provides a link to download it too ( http://www.megaupload.com/?d=HMMBYOTZ ). As a side note, I don'…
I think the recent trend you're referring to is not-so-recent for more than a year now and is already on the decline. But reasons are quite obvious.
I was referring to the past two years or so that I've been seeing it as "recent". It may not be internet recent, but I still consider that fairly recent in terms of music.
As far as it goes, I dislike MySpace because it is an excused for a half-assed web designer to slap something together and call it a "Band Site". I've seen a few MySpace pages that blew me away, and that really showed how good of a platform it could be. Those were, by far, the exception though, so every time I see a MySpace band page, I think "Wow, these guys are only willing to put this much work into their online presence?" Sure, my idea of a "good" site is rather skewed, but a lot of band sites are downright dreadful, and there really isn't an excuse for it.