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Microsoft CEO says women need not ask for raise, should trust system

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Re: Microsoft CEO says women need not ask for raise, should trust system

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Post by tdicola »

rdl wrote: post #2

Is he quoted out of context, or trolling? I'm confused, because most Microsoft people I know speak really highly of him, but the system is shitty for promoting even white guys in tech, let alone anyone else -- people get promoted by moving jobs every 12-24 months, not through being recognized and rewarded for contributions at companies. "Karma" makes me think he's trolling, or was quoted out of context. (The snarky r…

No its not out of context, a better article here has more details: http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/nadella-women-dont-ask-for-r...

For what its worth he walked back the statement on twitter, "Was inarticulate re how women should ask for raise. Our industry must close gender pay gap so a raise is not needed because of a bias #GHC14"

Re: Microsoft CEO says women need not ask for raise, should trust system

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Post by gajeam »

Two things:

First of all, ironically this was at the Grace Hopper Celebration, named for one of the foremost pioneers of women in technology.

Second of all, he's already essentially retracted the statement on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/satyanadella/status/520311425726566400

Re: Microsoft CEO says women need not ask for raise, should trust system

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Post by comrh »

clubhi wrote: post #3

I don't think roles deserve certain salaries. Different people are worth different amounts for the same role. As a corollary, I don't think women should have salary expectations because of a role.

"Different people are worth different amounts for the same role."

But are not worth different amounts because of their sex.

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Post by rjknight »

Is this surprising? CEOs of 120,000-employee corporations are not exactly well-known for their belief that those employees all deserve a raise.

It might be stupid for Nadella to want to nickel-and-dime MS employees, especially female ones, but as someone who is judged by the short-term profitability of the company, he has some pretty strong incentives to do so.

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Post by dominotw »

ryanburk wrote: post #8
rdl wrote: post #2

Is he quoted out of context, or trolling? I'm confused, because most Microsoft people I know speak really highly of him, but the system is shitty for promoting even white guys in tech, let alone anyone else -- people get promoted by moving jobs every 12-24 months, not through being recognized and rewarded for contributions at companies. "Karma" makes me think he's trolling, or was quoted out of context. (The snarky r…

http://readwrite.com/2014/10/09/nadella-women-dont-ask-for-r... has a better write up, in my opinion. this was at the annual grace hopper celebration of women in computing and was not out of context / said ironically.

>> Twenty-nine percent of the general Microsoft workforce is female, and in the U.S., almost 61% is white.

Can someone give me an american perspective on why Americans find 61% white to be an unacceptable thing considering 60-70% of american population identifies as white and America still predominantly is a white country.

Re: Microsoft CEO says women need not ask for raise, should trust system

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Post by clubhi »

comrh wrote: post #15
clubhi wrote: post #3

I don't think roles deserve certain salaries. Different people are worth different amounts for the same role. As a corollary, I don't think women should have salary expectations because of a role.

"Different people are worth different amounts for the same role." But are not worth different amounts because of their sex.

It's impossible to infer what a female is worth because you can't even infer what a male is worth.
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