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The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

#11

$1200 machine that can print arbitrary metal objects and the journalist focuses on a gun? What is wrong with you people...

Because that's what the machine is designed for, as advertised by Defense Distributed?

It's not like Wired has never talked about general purpose CNC mills before.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

#13

$1200 machine that can print arbitrary metal objects and the journalist focuses on a gun? What is wrong with you people...

The journalist focused on the purpose for which the machine was built, which is expressly making parts for guns.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

#14
This looks awesome.

For $1,200 you could set up as a company making little things for others, earn enough to pay for the machine and then benefit from it yourself.

What I would do with such a machine is to solve the problem of bike accessories and mounts. i.e. every light has a different mount, as do GPS devices, and cameras, and bag attachments. Yet you could manufacture some common clamp, and then adaptors for each thing. Perhaps standardise around something like the GoPro bracket for an even wider market (it would allow flashes and other accessories to be mounted using existing GoPro segments).

There's so many things you can do.

And they make a gun! Who cares about guns! It's all the other stuff that make this awesome.

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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I have to agree with the initial comment on the article, this is a fear mongering piece. Anyone that has a working knowledge of firearms can put together a usable weapon using readily available parts. In fact, a trip to home depot is all you need in order to build a crude (and pretty dangerous) shotgun. I also think it goes without saying that a criminal would probably opt to spend the $1,200 required to buy this CNC…

Not to mention, its been trivial to build "zip guns" with basic tools. Crude pistols aren't that tough to make, especially when the heavy lifting (making of reliable and safe ammo) is already done for you.

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What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public? You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ( "Breaking Bad in a Box" !) so what's so different with a gun?

Meth is illegal, full stop. Guns are not, that "legal loophole" is referred to by others as the Constitution, which makes gun manufacturing subject to laws and regulations, but not bans in the US.

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post #10
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What does it mean to sell a machine the sole purpose of which is to exploit a "legal loophole"? Can't the machine be made illegal the minute it's available to the public? You can't sell all the ingredients, tools and instructions to build a meth lab ( "Breaking Bad in a Box" !) so what's so different with a gun?

It's not an "AR-15 lower receiver maker". It's a cheap CNC mill you can do an infinite number of useful things with. Should high quality printers be illegal because you can make counterfeit bills with it? Or is the potential for harm an incidental part of any useful device? You can stab someone with a knife, but they're pretty handy for chopping food, too.

It is illegal to sell high quality printers that print currency, or at least sufficient pressure has been applied to printer makers so that their printers refuse to print currency.

http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~sjm217/projects/currency/

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

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post #4

I have to agree with the initial comment on the article, this is a fear mongering piece. Anyone that has a working knowledge of firearms can put together a usable weapon using readily available parts. In fact, a trip to home depot is all you need in order to build a crude (and pretty dangerous) shotgun. I also think it goes without saying that a criminal would probably opt to spend the $1,200 required to buy this CNC…

As an illustration of the above point about Home Depot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwCP2Og__Go#t=94

Re: The $1,200 Machine That Lets Anyone Make a Metal Gun at Home

#20

> ill your own lower receiver at home, however, and you can order the rest of the parts from online gun shops, creating a semi-automatic weapon with no serial number, obtained with no background check, no waiting period Besides the 6 months it takes to learn to make one that won't blow up in your face when you pull the trigger? Alarmist drivel.

Yeah... it's not as if proper guns are hard to come by in the US. If it were possible, guns would be sold in vending machines.
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