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US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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2 questions: 1. Why aren't cities everywhere doing this? 2. Who do I have to bother in my city to get this to happen?

it may already be too late for your city. often when cable companies wire up a town, they offer free access to gov and school buildings in return for exclusive development rights. no one can compete with them, including the town itself.

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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> Chattanooga has the largest high-speed internet service in the US, offering customers access to speeds of 1 gigabit per second – about 50 times faster than the US average. The service, provided by municipally owned EPB, has sparked a tech boom in the city and attracted international attention. EPB is now petitioning the FCC to expand its territory. Comcast and others have previously sued unsuccessfully to stop EPB’…

No monthly data caps either according to these reviews http://www.dslreports.com/comments/3492

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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I remember the day in US when the consumer was king, and its interests were second to all others (govt, big business, etc). Sadly that day has passed. Without getting too political, the root cause is unrestrained campaign giving.

When was this glorious time? Certainly doesn't seem like that would have been anytime since the 19th century, at the latest.

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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2 questions: 1. Why aren't cities everywhere doing this? 2. Who do I have to bother in my city to get this to happen?

Its illegal in many states to do this, including north carolina since Wilson, NC turned to be successful. TWC lobbied and got new laws passed to prevent other cities to do the same. Wilson, NC got an exemption because they aleady built the infrastructure.

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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post #6

I remember the day in US when the consumer was king, and its interests were second to all others (govt, big business, etc). Sadly that day has passed. Without getting too political, the root cause is unrestrained campaign giving.

How many decades ago was that?

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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post #11

2 questions: 1. Why aren't cities everywhere doing this? 2. Who do I have to bother in my city to get this to happen?

it may already be too late for your city. often when cable companies wire up a town, they offer free access to gov and school buildings in return for exclusive development rights. no one can compete with them, including the town itself.

That happened in the town where I grew up. My parents still cannot get proper broadband. There is a cable company in the town and they have one of these exclusivity agreements with the county.

However, they refuse to provide broadband access to the entire county. It is quite frustrating.

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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Counterpoint: try googling "Volstate EPB". I'm no expert, but I think it would be a shame if small struggling ISPs get the short end of the stick. It's hard for me to make a judgement on this specifically.

OT: this post is the 4th result in Google. Comment on HN indexed within 35 minutes. Crazy.

It kind of sucks for companies like that, but competition is good.

In an ideal situation you'd have "the people" own the pipes which they then rent at cost to commercial providers. In practice this would usually be via local government, but I'd prefer it via some kind of mutual society (where residents own a share, is open only to residents, and which is sold along with the property).

The UK has a variation of this model, called "local loop unbundling" (http://www.openreach.co.uk/orpg/home/products/llu/llu.do). The infra was originally built by the state telco BT, which was then privatized. To create competition they introduced LLU, which forced BT to allow competition access to the pipes.

Re: US cable giants calls on FCC to block cities' expansion of high-speed internet

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I think by now it's hard to deny that Comcast & friends are stifling the progress of the US economy. The US is 31st worldwide on bandwidth speed (which really can't be explained by the US's size alone), consumers and businesses are complaining across the board about high pricing, bad service, and lack of options.

These companies do the country and its inhabitants a big disservice. I think the only reasonable option for the FCC and the government would be to increase competition, and remove existing roadblocks.

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