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Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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Ugh: 'we developed a patent-pending solution called “ZyGL”.' While there are a bunch of people working to make stuff performant on browsers, Zynga comes in from behind and starts patenting barely-novel stuff on top of it.

Not to mention IE10 is already Old.

I lost a little more respect for Zynga today.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

#12

So ZyGL is basically the software rasterizer we all had to write in college graphics algorithms? So ZyGL is basically nothing more than Three.js, sans the option to render in SVG elements? And they want to patent this? Sorry for the language, but seriously, fuck these guys. What complete trolls. This is completely unacceptable. Software rasterization fallback has been a thing forever. Actually, you know, longer than…

Yes; please join the "Ask Patents" stackexchange site: http://patents.stackexchange.com/ This site is exactly for this reason: raising patent questions with the goal of identifying bad patents. "Ask Patents is a question and answer site for people interested in improving and participating in the US patent system. It's built and run by you as part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. With your help, we're worki…

It's been said before, but I'll say it again:

The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; please join the "Ask Patents" stackexchange site: http://patents.stackexchange.com/ This site is exactly for this reason: raising patent questions with the goal of identifying bad patents. "Ask Patents is a question and answer site for people interested in improving and participating in the US patent system. It's built and run by you as part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. With your help, we're worki…

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

Ask Patents has some good information, but also a lot of bad information or just plain wrong claims by rando's on the internet.

The USPTO has their own internal databases they look to for research information.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; please join the "Ask Patents" stackexchange site: http://patents.stackexchange.com/ This site is exactly for this reason: raising patent questions with the goal of identifying bad patents. "Ask Patents is a question and answer site for people interested in improving and participating in the US patent system. It's built and run by you as part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. With your help, we're worki…

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

At least in this case they did

http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2013/07/22.html

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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>"today we wanted to share some of what we learned in the process" >"To tackle this issue we developed a patent-pending solution"

At first I was surprised, it looked like Zynga was doing something nice for a change. In the end, it seems all they're sharing is the bad news.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes; please join the "Ask Patents" stackexchange site: http://patents.stackexchange.com/ This site is exactly for this reason: raising patent questions with the goal of identifying bad patents. "Ask Patents is a question and answer site for people interested in improving and participating in the US patent system. It's built and run by you as part of the Stack Exchange network of Q&A sites. With your help, we're worki…

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

Ask Patents is actually explicitly supported by the USPTO, who help to create it:

http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/09/askpatents-com-a-stack...

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

Ask Patents is actually explicitly supported by the USPTO, who help to create it: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/09/askpatents-com-a-stack...

No they did not.

The blog post is a puff piece for a new (at the time) StackExchange product and basically just talks about how they felt there was a need for something like this and how they felt the timing was good.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

#18

I don't want to spoil their great "innovation patent" but Three.js has implemented this years ago ( http://threejs.org/docs/#Reference/Renderers/CanvasRenderer ).

Does that reconstruct quads as the Zynga post described? From the source code, it seems to just draw the triangles individually:

https://github.com/mrdoob/three.js/blob/1769fbfc6c994b51a54c...

I also don't see any heuristic processing of shaders as described for ZyGL.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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post #14
post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's been said before, but I'll say it again: The USPTO does not and will not look at nor use an end-user forums like "Ask Patents" for the basis of any decision.

At least in this case they did http://www.joelonsoftware.com/items/2013/07/22.html

This is Joel puffing a new StackExchagne product... nothing more.

Re: Zynga’s first foray into WebGL, and how it runs on IE10

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post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ask Patents is actually explicitly supported by the USPTO, who help to create it: http://blog.stackoverflow.com/2012/09/askpatents-com-a-stack...

No they did not. The blog post is a puff piece for a new (at the time) StackExchange product and basically just talks about how they felt there was a need for something like this and how they felt the timing was good.

"Helped create it" might be an exaggeration, but they definitely had a hand in its creation and have trumpeted its use: http://www.uspto.gov/news/pr/2012/12-60.jsp

From the Stack Exchange blog post, "[USPTO director Kappos] came–twice!–to the Stack Exchange office in New York City to encourage us to open a Stack Exchange site that would generate heaps of prior art to help the patent examiners do their jobs."

Last year, then-acting USPTO director Rea said in a speech, "We consulted on a private-sector initiative called Ask Patents." http://www.uspto.gov/news/speeches/2013/rea_Managing_Ip.jsp Elsewhere they refer to a "partnership" with Ask Patents.

No, this doesn't mean that prior art submitted to Ask Patents is automatically read by the USPTO. But USPTO promotes it as a way to gather information which can then be submitted through their new public comment process.

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