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We are bored in the city, there is no longer any Temple of the Sun. Between the legs of the women walking by, the dadaists imagined a monkey wrench and the surrealists a crystal cup. That’s lost. We know how to read every promise in faces — the latest stage of morphology. The poetry of the billboards lasted twenty years. We are bored in the city, we really have to strain to still discover mysteries on the sidewalk bi…

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Re: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance

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We are bored in the city, there is no longer any Temple of the Sun. Between the legs of the women walking by, the dadaists imagined a monkey wrench and the surrealists a crystal cup. That’s lost. We know how to read every promise in faces — the latest stage of morphology. The poetry of the billboards lasted twenty years. We are bored in the city, we really have to strain to still discover mysteries on the sidewalk bi…

This makes me wonder, how does the NSA choose their goofy codenames?

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post #8

Good luck port scanning ipv6 at random. I really hope all this some day is just some horrible chapter in a book that remembers how governments used to spy on their own citizens and how crazy that seems to everyone "now".

If you have access to a few routers, you could probably generate a good list of valid ipv6 addresses.

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post #8

Good luck port scanning ipv6 at random. I really hope all this some day is just some horrible chapter in a book that remembers how governments used to spy on their own citizens and how crazy that seems to everyone "now".

Governments are either kept honest by a vigilant population of actual citizens (instead of people only interested in their personal affairs) or are mostly a tool for the rich and powerful to maintain a favorable order.

(The only third alternative to a government for the multitudes and a government for the rich is the direct rule of the rich and powerful without or with minimal government, as in the calls for "deregulation" which seldom favor the average Joe).

() What the ancients of the Athenian democracy used to call "idiots". The word comes from "idiotis", the term for someone not caring to participate in public affairs and policy decisions -- and literaly means "private".

Re: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance

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We are bored in the city, there is no longer any Temple of the Sun. Between the legs of the women walking by, the dadaists imagined a monkey wrench and the surrealists a crystal cup. That’s lost. We know how to read every promise in faces — the latest stage of morphology. The poetry of the billboards lasted twenty years. We are bored in the city, we really have to strain to still discover mysteries on the sidewalk bi…

I think a room full of monkeys wrote this.

For one, it's obviously quite good literature, of the "manifesto" style favored by modernist movements.

Second, it makes perfect sense. It describes things seen in strolling around a city (Paris in this case), listing funny street names and shop titles. Plus some references to older art and poetry movements (namely dada and surealism), regarding their promise of a "fuller life" etc.

Not sure what it has to do with TFA, but surely not the work of a "room full of monkeys".

Re: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance

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post #6

Disturbingly, the HACIENDA system actually hijacks civilian computers to do some of its dirty work, allowing it to leach computing resources and cover its tracks. Yeah, that is disturbing, and it should be made illegal.

I think it's already illegal.

Agreed, it's just that there's no tribunal to bring the case to.

Re: GNU hackers discover HACIENDA government surveillance

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think a room full of monkeys wrote this.

For one, it's obviously quite good literature, of the "manifesto" style favored by modernist movements. Second, it makes perfect sense. It describes things seen in strolling around a city (Paris in this case), listing funny street names and shop titles. Plus some references to older art and poetry movements (namely dada and surealism), regarding their promise of a "fuller life" etc. Not sure what it has to do with TF…

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