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CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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Are there more actual implementation details somewhere? Sounds like selecting the ssl context based on the clients SNI request. This (obviously) would predicate client SNI support, as opposed to anycast IPs or similar.

I believe you could use node.js or https://github.com/indutny/bud for asynchronously selecting SNI context per request. This is very fast and flexible.

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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what I just paid 20/month for the SSL....

Update: I have another concern I just found out.

For example, I do a lot of web scraping through my domain and I see that I was automatically opted in to use https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/scrapeshield, something that is supposed to block scraping.

There's a huge conflict of interest if it turns out that the cloudflare network actively aims to help block scraping.

I know you guys said you will be on the neutral side but if the cloudflare is helping Scrapeshield become more intelligent about scraping by monitoring my scraping actions, I really don't know if it's wise to stay with cloudflare, as much as I love it.

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's not a problem if those connections use self-signed certificates, right? If that's the case, then setting up SSL from CloudFlare to your servers should be pretty easy.

It would be free, but not necessarily easy, as it would still entail configuring your web server to use SSL, and that might not even be an option if you're using shared hosting. (Aside: self signed certs don't protect the connection from active attacks unless CloudFlare pins the cert. I'm mainly concerned with passive eavesdropping though.)

That's what we're going to do: issue certs that our customers can use on their origins, that will be trusted by our network, and that will be pinned to a particular site. That will allow end-to-end cryptographic connections. There are other groups working on making installing and setting up SSL on origin servers easier, that's not something we're likely to tackle, but agree it's important.

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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what I just paid 20/month for the SSL.... Update: I have another concern I just found out. For example, I do a lot of web scraping through my domain and I see that I was automatically opted in to use https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/scrapeshield , something that is supposed to block scraping. There's a huge conflict of interest if it turns out that the cloudflare network actively aims to help block scraping. I know yo…

We'll be adding some cool new features to our paid plans at the same time, so I hope you'll decide to continue paying us the $20.

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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Please note that using Cloudflare, even with free SSL, is not an increase to the security and privacy of your users. On the contrary, Cloudflare records information about your users (this cannot be disabled) and, by default, blocks users who attempt to view your site through privacy-enhancing software. I would suggest that people looking to install SSL on their website (this should be everybody) instead get their free SSL certificate from gandi.net or StartSSL, who do not spy on or block your users.

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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what I just paid 20/month for the SSL.... Update: I have another concern I just found out. For example, I do a lot of web scraping through my domain and I see that I was automatically opted in to use https://www.cloudflare.com/apps/scrapeshield , something that is supposed to block scraping. There's a huge conflict of interest if it turns out that the cloudflare network actively aims to help block scraping. I know yo…

Scrapeshield is a CloudFlare feature. If you don't want it, turn it off. Here's the announcement from when we launched the feature:

http://blog.cloudflare.com/introducing-scrapeshield-discover...

Re: CloudFlare enabling free SSL by mid-October

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Please note that using Cloudflare, even with free SSL, is not an increase to the security and privacy of your users. On the contrary, Cloudflare records information about your users (this cannot be disabled) and, by default, blocks users who attempt to view your site through privacy-enhancing software. I would suggest that people looking to install SSL on their website (this should be everybody) instead get their fre…

Gandi is free for a year and then expensive after - Namecheap may not be free but renewals and initial costs are much lower. StartSSL is free but revoke-ing costs money.
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