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The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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I'm somewhat disturbed by the fact that Samsung (and Apple) seems to be the only one that is pushing for >= 10" tablets. I had a Galaxy Tab S Pro which is not that great (heard the Note line is very good). I ended up gifting it to my dad and I bought myself an iPad, even though I'm heavily invested in Android. Nexus 10 has no successor, and LG is not coming out with anything with that diagonal, and now this.

Agreed. I would love a 15" tablet for watching movies in bed.

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Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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I'm somewhat disturbed by the fact that Samsung (and Apple) seems to be the only one that is pushing for >= 10" tablets. I had a Galaxy Tab S Pro which is not that great (heard the Note line is very good). I ended up gifting it to my dad and I bought myself an iPad, even though I'm heavily invested in Android. Nexus 10 has no successor, and LG is not coming out with anything with that diagonal, and now this.

I just picked up a Galaxy Note Pro 12.2, and I love the size! The display is amazing. It's fast, too. A pretty nice upgrade from my Nexus 10.

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I'm somewhat disturbed by the fact that Samsung (and Apple) seems to be the only one that is pushing for >= 10" tablets. I had a Galaxy Tab S Pro which is not that great (heard the Note line is very good). I ended up gifting it to my dad and I bought myself an iPad, even though I'm heavily invested in Android. Nexus 10 has no successor, and LG is not coming out with anything with that diagonal, and now this.

The Transformer series is usually good. Don't like the proprietary plug though. My 2012 model lasted well and I gave it to my mother as a gaming device that she is still using to this day. The Tegra 3 chip kinda sucked though. There was no N10 successor because apparently it didn't sell well enough.

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Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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I was waiting for over half a year for the next shield and am very disappointed it's a tablet. I liked the original shield because it allows to stream PC games throughout my house, so that I can play them on my couch or in bed. The other awesome thing is playing emulators on the go. With the tablet I can't do any of those properly, because the controller is not built in and I need to have a place to set up the tablet…

same feeling here, I don't understand the switch, the interesting thing about the Shield was the form factor. Now it only provide a moderate aventage over existing tablet + Xbox controller

Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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I'm somewhat disturbed by the fact that Samsung (and Apple) seems to be the only one that is pushing for >= 10" tablets. I had a Galaxy Tab S Pro which is not that great (heard the Note line is very good). I ended up gifting it to my dad and I bought myself an iPad, even though I'm heavily invested in Android. Nexus 10 has no successor, and LG is not coming out with anything with that diagonal, and now this.

Bigger tablets definitely exist, but the thing is they're much bigger, and many don't run on battery. Search "android all in one" to find them. Here are some examples:

http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2/192-7938256-6859156...

http://www.pcworld.com/article/2152540/android-on-the-big-sc...

http://www.asus.com/AllinOne_PCs/ASUS_Transformer_AiO_P1801/

Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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I was waiting for over half a year for the next shield and am very disappointed it's a tablet. I liked the original shield because it allows to stream PC games throughout my house, so that I can play them on my couch or in bed. The other awesome thing is playing emulators on the go. With the tablet I can't do any of those properly, because the controller is not built in and I need to have a place to set up the tablet…

same feeling here, I don't understand the switch, the interesting thing about the Shield was the form factor. Now it only provide a moderate aventage over existing tablet + Xbox controller

It's not a switch. The point of the Shield line is to create a market for Tegra chips. Adding a second form factor is an attempt to broaden their potential customer base, and more directly compete with traditional tablets. The original Shield is still for sale. (I love mine, and I am certainly open to buying another revision of the original shield with a K1 at some point, but this isn't in place of that.)

Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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An example of regular glibc Linux running on Nvidia Jetson TK1 board (same chipset as in Shield) on fully open stack (nouveau + Wayland):

http://www.codethink.co.uk/2014/06/12/no-secret-sauce-just-o...

I wonder if there are open drivers for other components in Shield (WiFi, accelerometer, etc.) to enable running fully open stack on it. I'd really like to have something like Nemo or Plasma Active running on top of Wayland there.

Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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An example of regular glibc Linux running on Nvidia Jetson TK1 board (same chipset as in Shield) on fully open stack (nouveau + Wayland): http://www.codethink.co.uk/2014/06/12/no-secret-sauce-just-o... I wonder if there are open drivers for other components in Shield (WiFi, accelerometer, etc.) to enable running fully open stack on it. I'd really like to have something like Nemo or Plasma Active running on top of Way…

(I work for NVIDIA, but not on the Shield team, and am speaking only in a personal capacity, not a corporate capacity.)

There has been a source release to build Android, at least [0] -- the open source teams, I've found, are very very careful about pushing source the same day they push binaries of updates. I think that WiFi and accelerometer bits are in the kernel, and since they're in the kernel, the source is available [1]. It looks like the binary blobs are for camera, GPS, GPU, and Icera (3G/LTE radio); if you're using Nouveau, then although GPU usage may not be the most power-efficient, you should have most of what you need to run the system.

[0] http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=manifest/android/binary...

[1] http://nv-tegra.nvidia.com/gitweb/?p=linux-3.10.git;a=shortl...

Re: The Nvidia Shield Tablet Review

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An example of regular glibc Linux running on Nvidia Jetson TK1 board (same chipset as in Shield) on fully open stack (nouveau + Wayland): http://www.codethink.co.uk/2014/06/12/no-secret-sauce-just-o... I wonder if there are open drivers for other components in Shield (WiFi, accelerometer, etc.) to enable running fully open stack on it. I'd really like to have something like Nemo or Plasma Active running on top of Way…

(I work for NVIDIA, but not on the Shield team, and am speaking only in a personal capacity, not a corporate capacity.) There has been a source release to build Android, at least [0] -- the open source teams, I've found, are very very careful about pushing source the same day they push binaries of updates. I think that WiFi and accelerometer bits are in the kernel, and since they're in the kernel, the source is avail…

Thanks, that sounds promising! 3G/LTE is rarely open, and I'd go for the WiFi model anyway if anything. Touchscreen driver is also critical for a tablet though.

Do you know if Linux for Tegra R19 (https://developer.nvidia.com/linux-tegra-rel-19) is using those kernel drivers for WiFi/accelerometer, or that's a bare minimum release?

Also, if this isn't of course under some NDA and etc, do you know if Nvidia plan to merge development of the closed Tegra driver with nouveau for K1? Since Nvidia contributed some code already, may be they consider switching to the same approach like Intel?

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