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Re: Text and Ride in India

#11
In Bangalore, rickshaw fares have been going up, while cab fares have been going down in the past few years. Currently, it costs Rs.13 per KM for a rickshaw[1] and it costs exactly the same, Rs.13 per KM, for a small cab[2] during the day in Bangalore. During the night, rickshaw is 50% more expensive than using a cab.

A cab is clearly a more comfortable ride than a rickshaw. I don't see how the rickshaw business will continue to operate and grow under these conditions.

Cab services have been growing steadily though.

[1] - http://www.taxiautofare.com/taxi-fare-card/Bengaluru-Auto-fa...

[2] - http://www.olacabs.com/fares/bangalore

Re: Text and Ride in India

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post #11

In Bangalore, rickshaw fares have been going up, while cab fares have been going down in the past few years. Currently, it costs Rs.13 per KM for a rickshaw[1] and it costs exactly the same, Rs.13 per KM, for a small cab[2] during the day in Bangalore. During the night, rickshaw is 50% more expensive than using a cab. A cab is clearly a more comfortable ride than a rickshaw. I don't see how the rickshaw business will…

Are taxis as fast as rickshaws, even in heavy traffic?

Re: Text and Ride in India

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post #11

In Bangalore, rickshaw fares have been going up, while cab fares have been going down in the past few years. Currently, it costs Rs.13 per KM for a rickshaw[1] and it costs exactly the same, Rs.13 per KM, for a small cab[2] during the day in Bangalore. During the night, rickshaw is 50% more expensive than using a cab. A cab is clearly a more comfortable ride than a rickshaw. I don't see how the rickshaw business will…

I know in Bangkok, its a lot of tourists that ride the Tuk Tuks, maybe its the same thing in rickshaws?

Re: Text and Ride in India

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post #11

In Bangalore, rickshaw fares have been going up, while cab fares have been going down in the past few years. Currently, it costs Rs.13 per KM for a rickshaw[1] and it costs exactly the same, Rs.13 per KM, for a small cab[2] during the day in Bangalore. During the night, rickshaw is 50% more expensive than using a cab. A cab is clearly a more comfortable ride than a rickshaw. I don't see how the rickshaw business will…

My father is a cab driver and your Math is way off course. In order to break even, Cab drivers and most travel agencies offering cab services use a mix of fare systems. If you are hiring a cab for a day, the cab fares are mixture of 'time' and 'distance'. For example, there is a minimum half day charge for 4 hours or 40 kilometer, or multiples of that plus any additional billing for extra kilometers driven.

Tourist cabs are charged separately.

Autos are far far cheaper than any cab you can hire. But the margin of profit in Autos is way less, so the general quality suffers.

The reason your Meru's, Ola's or even Uber can offer cabs for so cheap is they raise enough money to operate on losses. Bankruptcy is pretty common in this business. Every time I talk to my father about a new cheap travel scheme, he only asks me to wait for their imminent demise.

We've been in this business for quite some while to understand how this stuff works. If you wish to understand how sustainable cab business work, have a talk with the office cab drivers. You will get a peek into the life of people who sleep for barely 5 hrs/day and drive 300Km/day to make a living on 12000 rupees a month. All while charging a good deal to travel agencies.

Autos are going to make a killing. If you are thinking you are going to invest your way in to this market, then you are going to be in for a surprise.

There is a saying in my native tongue(urdu): "If you wish to destroy a person's life, get him to start a travel business'.

Re: Text and Ride in India

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"Olacabs": Cabs service in India, also faced similar deterioration of service after rapid expansion. Makes me wonder if startup-growth issue or public-transport culture problem. Because in my experience the heavily politicized transport trade unions in india, do cause lot of trouble for initiatives like these. src: http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/mumbai/Meru-threaten...

>>public-transport culture problem

That's just one thing. Operating a fleet of vehicles comes with its own head aches. Start with deprecating assets, poorly maintained vehicles, and thin profit margins. Doing this on scale gets very difficult.

Plus from everything I've heard. Getting parking slots, permission, permits etc requires paying out heavy bribes[Which you can't legally account for] etc etc.

Together all of this really makes it difficult to run this business on scale.

Re: Text and Ride in India

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post #11

In Bangalore, rickshaw fares have been going up, while cab fares have been going down in the past few years. Currently, it costs Rs.13 per KM for a rickshaw[1] and it costs exactly the same, Rs.13 per KM, for a small cab[2] during the day in Bangalore. During the night, rickshaw is 50% more expensive than using a cab. A cab is clearly a more comfortable ride than a rickshaw. I don't see how the rickshaw business will…

My father is a cab driver and your Math is way off course. In order to break even, Cab drivers and most travel agencies offering cab services use a mix of fare systems. If you are hiring a cab for a day, the cab fares are mixture of 'time' and 'distance'. For example, there is a minimum half day charge for 4 hours or 40 kilometer, or multiples of that plus any additional billing for extra kilometers driven. Tourist c…

The Math is correct. Those are the current prices. You are saying that Olacab like companies are able to afford to have low prices because they have investor money to operate at a loss. That may be true too. Yes, it will be interesting to see who can hold on for longer.

We have a reached a stage where rickshaws and cabs are competing for the same market segment, within the city.

Re: Text and Ride in India

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I met Mukesh Jha, one of the founders, couple of months back in a conference. It was amazing listening to his story of Autowale.in. His passion about this was apparent.
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