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What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

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Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

#11

Wait until you earn $2000, and then talk to an accountant, who will explain the tax stuff. Forget about patents and trademarks. Good luck!

Agreed. Be sure in the meantime to set asside 30% of any money you take in and keep it for when taxes are due. Once you register as a business, you'll get various tax advantages, but for starting out while you test an idea, keep it simple.

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

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You should wait on the company/patents/trademark stuff. Heck, you can even wait on making a web frontend for it. Something I've learned is to get a good idea from the community about who is actually interested in the idea/service. Create a landing page to collect signups and register in the countless sites to get interest. Then, you'll know whether or not to build it.

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for the advice. I think I'm going to hold off on actually making a service and consider doing something like Kickstarter. I want to see if I can get some funds to put together a better product and get a sense of the market / interest level. Are there any protective steps I should take before doing that? I mean stuff like licenses / patents / trademarks / company formation etc.

One reason you incorporate or patent or trademark is to protect your capital (money) from taxes and lawsuits. If I understand you correctly, you currently have very little capital to protect. Once you've accumulated enough capital that it'd be painful to loose it, it's time to start thinking of protecting it with patents, trademarks, incorporation, etc. For now, just have fun.

1. The OP gives no indication (AFAICT) that he is judgement proof as an individual. Incorporation to avoid liability is thus plausible, though obviously he would have to balance the likelihood of his getting sued against the hassle of incorporating. Additionally, as a non-lawyer, I'm not sure it would be a good idea to try incorporating _after_ gaining assets from the venture: it seems like a recipe for trouble if he had to go to court.

2. Holding off on a trademark would be fine, though finding a unique name _should_ (IMHO) be done at the start, and at that point I'm not seeing a big reason not to trademark.

3. The stuff on patents makes no sense (at least to me) in this context.

That said, I claim no particular expertise on this topic.

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

#16

Wait until you earn $2000, and then talk to an accountant, who will explain the tax stuff. Forget about patents and trademarks. Good luck!

Wait.

Are you telling me that, wherever you're based (I assume the US) you can just wait until you earn $2000 and then start worrying about taxes?

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

#17

Just use Bitcoin. If you don't know how to, then just use BitPay, which today has announced a free forever plan, so it's a no-brainer.

Man, people are really butthurt with bitcoin around here. You gave him the best answer of all and all you got was downvotes and a sympathy comment from me... ;)

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

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post #16

Wait until you earn $2000, and then talk to an accountant, who will explain the tax stuff. Forget about patents and trademarks. Good luck!

Wait. Are you telling me that, wherever you're based (I assume the US) you can just wait until you earn $2000 and then start worrying about taxes?

No, until that point you're not sure if you have a business service that people are willing to pay for.

And that dollar amount - you'd just pay ordinary income on it -- because it's not worth the hassle of setting up a business structure. So set aside some money from your sales to pay the taxman.

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

#19

Just use Bitcoin. If you don't know how to, then just use BitPay, which today has announced a free forever plan, so it's a no-brainer.

Man, people are really butthurt with bitcoin around here. You gave him the best answer of all and all you got was downvotes and a sympathy comment from me... ;)

From a practical standpoint (which is literally what he asked for), using a bitcoin as the sole method of payment is likely to artificially limit your potential customer-base. Bitcoin isn't widespread enough where most consumers can be expected to utilize them for payment. You may create a phenomenal web service, only to see it fail because people can't figure out how to pay for its use.

Re: What are the practical steps for monetizing a web service?

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post #18
post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait. Are you telling me that, wherever you're based (I assume the US) you can just wait until you earn $2000 and then start worrying about taxes?

No, until that point you're not sure if you have a business service that people are willing to pay for. And that dollar amount - you'd just pay ordinary income on it -- because it's not worth the hassle of setting up a business structure. So set aside some money from your sales to pay the taxman.

This is terrible advice. What if he invests $28,000 then earns $2,000, then talks to his accountant and finds out that if he had filled in some paper work that $28,000 could be a tax deduction?

Talk to an accountant, or at least find the local equivalent of a small business service center in your area. Small businesses are the backbone of the economy and most major cities and states or provinces (depending on country) have folks you can contact to get basic guidance in this area.

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