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CentOS 7 potential release

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Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

I think its a RC of CentOS 7 because of "POTENTIAL" word .

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

#12
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Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

As excited as I am for 7.0 I highly dislike the systemd and grub changes. I'll wait for benchmarks before I decide to go to 7.0 or fully switch my stack to Debian

debian is also switching to systemd

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

You can enable text log files by installing 'rsyslog'. You only have to install the package, no further configuration is needed.

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

#14
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Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

No more easy editing/understanding grub.conf

True, the grub2 config is horrible.

No more easy to understand /etc/init.d

It's a bit more complicated, but not too bad:

Instead of "/etc/init.d/thing restart" you type "systemctl restart thing"

Instead of chkconfig --list, you type "systemctl list-dependencies"

Writing the equivalent script with systemd is much cleaner with less hacks, particularly for launching as different users and doing locking.

No more text log files for system log (journalctl instead)

By default. It's fine once you get the hang of the new syntax:

journalctl --since=today --follow

Watch out for default XFS filesystem instead of EXT4 because it is slower in real world use for databases, etc.

Depends on the workload. Speed is only one part of it. For some benchmarks by phoronix see http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=linux_315...

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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post #8

Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

Thanks for posting this. That's what i was expecting. Does any of that really improve my day? Nope. In fact most of it makes it worse and adds friction. More cogs turning in different directions. Will keep our devops stuff on CentOS 6.5 for at least another 4 years...

Will keep our devops stuff on CentOS 6.5 for at least another 4 years...

What if someone needs one of the newer packages provided by RHEL7?

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

You don't like systemd but it's probably time to accept the fact that it has "won". Most major distros including Debian is switching to it so it will get harder and harder to avoid. Might as well make the effort to learn it now.

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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post #16
post #8

Even this article title says "POTENTIAL" release. I am not even sure it is signed? They are still doing QA, it will be a week or two before GA Before you rush to 7.0 after 6.5 - things you are going to have to learn because they change everything: systemd replaces init.d grub2 replaces grub xfs is now default over ext4 filesystem ( many, many people dislike systemd, it is somewhat anti-linux in nature ) No more easy…

You don't like systemd but it's probably time to accept the fact that it has "won". Most major distros including Debian is switching to it so it will get harder and harder to avoid. Might as well make the effort to learn it now.

Technically I don't have to accept it until 2020 ;-)

(and FreeBSD has declared they will never use it, which to be fair is easy for them to declare since they cannot use it because it requires posix) (correction: not posix, cgroups and udev)

Re: CentOS 7 potential release

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post #15
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks for posting this. That's what i was expecting. Does any of that really improve my day? Nope. In fact most of it makes it worse and adds friction. More cogs turning in different directions. Will keep our devops stuff on CentOS 6.5 for at least another 4 years...

Will keep our devops stuff on CentOS 6.5 for at least another 4 years... What if someone needs one of the newer packages provided by RHEL7?

What if I don't?

Most of our stuff is on JVMs apart from SVN/DAV/apache/LDAP and that's a 40 min job to get packages ready for from srpms from scratch. We just have our own repo and import stuff that isn't in the distro repo ourselves.

FreeBSD looking like a good option in the future.

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