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The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Honest, legitimate post that I very much enjoyed.

However I do think posts like this feed in ageism. I say this because it posits that the change is that the author is older and has more things to do, therefore they've fallen out with technology. The take-away invariably being that people who are older and have more things to do have fallen out with technology, whereas the young are still with it, whatever it is.

Let's back up for a moment.

I've worked with people throughout my career who never learned a thing that wasn't specifically taught to them on the job. They had very little curiosity, and an email saying something like "try to look into" would get met with derision. "Is this on the test?" they would effectively ask, when really I was just trying to get people interested in something that might have an impact on our work. So soon enough I have to be very specific and guide people along the technology path.

They left work and played volleyball and worked on their tuner car and went to family events and so on. They learned exactly what was specifically necessary for their job today and tomorrow. Never beyond.

Most of them were 20-ish year olds.

I was the prototypical "love technology around the clock" sort, and I was very, very much the exception. Literally, I know no one who I ever worked with who savored technology like I do.

But there were moments when I lost interest. One was on a return from my honeymoon. Being away from technology for a couple of weeks, suddenly it was all very "Meh". I could easily have taken that moment and said "Oh well, I guess this is what happens when you turn 27. Guess it's time to look into management."

But I didn't because that would be wrong. I lost my mojo and was burned out. Not long after I changed jobs, got recharged, and was at it again.

And I love it. I love the change. I love the technology.

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Unfortunately, when you're job hunting ... you do. As I'm finding out. Two years as a system admin and not keeping up with trending tech and I can't land anything here.

Where do you live? In the center of San Francisco? In every other place in the world nobody give a damn about the latest technology. They only need something that work for they problems.

I dunno. Web developers in Ithaca NY use Angular JS, I know that.

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Luckily you don't need any of these fad/new libraries to make good products and websites.

Unfortunately, when you're job hunting ... you do. As I'm finding out. Two years as a system admin and not keeping up with trending tech and I can't land anything here.

What happened to the tech recruiters that continuously send everyone job offers? Or is that only in the Valley?

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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I feel his pain, in a sense. I'm 24, and 'cloud' to me is 'a vps somewhere', I don't grok the difference, I've worked in elastic compute environments before, but that's definitely not what you're buying with things like EC2, and I simply don't see the value in it. other things like the 'DevOps' title; seems to mean either a sysadmin who can do configuration management, or a developer who can configure apache. everywh…

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Devops is an attitude more than a particular practice.

So far as AWS, I'm an AWS maniac and I would say it is a bit complicated. You have a huge number of choices and if you pick the wrong ones you will pay in more ways then one.

I've gotten to the top of the learning curve fortunately because I read AWS docs over and over when I work out at the gym, but I've got little interest in working with other cloud platforms because I don't want to climb that hill again.

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Unfortunately, when you're job hunting ... you do. As I'm finding out. Two years as a system admin and not keeping up with trending tech and I can't land anything here.

Where do you live? In the center of San Francisco? In every other place in the world nobody give a damn about the latest technology. They only need something that work for they problems.

Don't be a web developer if you hate fads. There are ERP systems, business systems etc that pretty much use the same tech as 20 years ago...

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you live? In the center of San Francisco? In every other place in the world nobody give a damn about the latest technology. They only need something that work for they problems.

Don't be a web developer if you hate fads. There are ERP systems, business systems etc that pretty much use the same tech as 20 years ago...

He is a sysadmin...

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Where do you live? In the center of San Francisco? In every other place in the world nobody give a damn about the latest technology. They only need something that work for they problems.

I dunno. Web developers in Ithaca NY use Angular JS, I know that.

Ithaca is full of hippies, it doesn't count.

/s (GREETINGS, MY ITHACAN BROTHER)

Re: The Developer's Dystopian Future

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Devops is an attitude more than a particular practice. So far as AWS, I'm an AWS maniac and I would say it is a bit complicated. You have a huge number of choices and if you pick the wrong ones you will pay in more ways then one. I've gotten to the top of the learning curve fortunately because I read AWS docs over and over when I work out at the gym, but I've got little interest in working with other cloud platforms…

>because I read AWS docs over and over when I work out at the gym

Now that's... dedication. How does the "working out" part go though? There is no way I could see myself reading AWS docs repeatedly while lifting, it actually sounds kindof dangerous. Edit: you and I have the same alma mater and have probably worked out in the same gym! Go Big Red.

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