The Snowden documents revealed that Germans visiting the Tor project website would be subject to permanent NSA surveillance. Does that make you more or less likely to click the link below? If the answer is "less likely", how does it feel to be intimidated out of your free expression? https://www.torproject.org/
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#12The Snowden documents revealed that Germans visiting the Tor project website would be subject to permanent NSA surveillance. Does that make you more or less likely to click the link below? If the answer is "less likely", how does it feel to be intimidated out of your free expression? https://www.torproject.org/
How is clicking on a link to a project you have no interest in "free expression"?
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For most Americans it's a day of barbecues, fireworks, and beer without much (if any) thought or celebration of freedom and liberty.
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As an American, I don't think there's a way to stop this through the democratic process: If a whistle blower publishes details showing the government is running "Project X", and we "kick the bastards out" that authorized it via the ballot process, and the government shuts down "Project X" as a result, all the NSA needs to do is rename it "Project Y". I'm seriously at a loss as to what to do about this problem.
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As an American, I don't think there's a way to stop this through the democratic process: If a whistle blower publishes details showing the government is running "Project X", and we "kick the bastards out" that authorized it via the ballot process, and the government shuts down "Project X" as a result, all the NSA needs to do is rename it "Project Y". I'm seriously at a loss as to what to do about this problem.
Now we have a much more subtle form of unconstitutional behavior. Like Bush before him, Obama thinks it's his "#1 job is to protect America." He forgot that he swore an oath making it his #1 job to "preserve, protect and defend the Constitution."
Better technology will provide us real privacy, an informed society, and eventually the truly free countries all humans deserve.
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> They celebrated 4th of July yesterday, celebrated their freedom and liberty as their government takes away those core values. For most Americans it's a day of barbecues, fireworks, and beer without much (if any) thought or celebration of freedom and liberty.
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It is garden variety cognitive dissonance. Which isn't limited to Americans.
On this specific issue it's pretty limited to America, not much other countries can do to fix the NSA issue
It's certainly a valid musing, but its scope is far broader than you were letting on. (At least, that was how I read it.)