Is there a short description of the algorithm anywhere? I'm too lazy to read the code.
Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
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Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
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God damn do I hope nobody distributes a build of this for ubuntards to use! Con's original scheduler had no chance of becoming the vanilla scheduler, as it was in no way general purpose, had a number of regressions, and he was a dick about the whole thing (in a community of assholes!). He was also insistent on making the scheduler modular, something that Linus and his lieutenants rightly refused outright. This new sc…
sigh What's with the attitude? A lot of people use Ubuntu, why not have a scheduler that caters to their needs? Your sneering at 'ubuntards' is just petty.
Hey, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at work, and in the past have done substantial deployments of it to managed end-user desktops. It's not beneath me or anything.
I'm sneering at a particular subset of Ubuntu users -- the entire userbase of ubuntuforums.org, the Digg/Reddit/Lifehacker "top ten ways to..." readers. They are the "Power Users" of desktop Linux -- they have no clue how anything works nor the facility to learn, but they sure are earnest and they love to evangelize! They'll seize any opportunity to apply their cargo-cult knowledge to help you with the problems they think you have.
In past generations these people (largely adolescents) would have been know-nothing partisan tweakers of Windows, Classic Mac OS, BeOS, Amiga, or any number of 8-bit home computer platforms. For now Linux is the cool thing to wank over -- compiz helped a lot with that. A couple years ago it looked like a lot of them were defecting to the Hackintosh community -- does anyone know if that trend held up numbers-wise?
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
sigh What's with the attitude? A lot of people use Ubuntu, why not have a scheduler that caters to their needs? Your sneering at 'ubuntards' is just petty.
Hey, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at work, and in the past have done substantial deployments of it to managed end-user desktops. It's not beneath me or anything. I'm sneering at a particular subset of Ubuntu users -- the entire userbase of ubuntuforums.org, the Digg/Reddit/Lifehacker "top ten ways to..." readers. They are the "Power Users" of desktop Linux -- they have no clue how anything works nor the facility to le…
Why are you calling these people "Ubuntards"? I don't know about Digg or Lifehacker but the vast majority of Linux people on Reddit despise Ubuntu and use Arch instead.
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#14Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at work, and in the past have done substantial deployments of it to managed end-user desktops. It's not beneath me or anything. I'm sneering at a particular subset of Ubuntu users -- the entire userbase of ubuntuforums.org, the Digg/Reddit/Lifehacker "top ten ways to..." readers. They are the "Power Users" of desktop Linux -- they have no clue how anything works nor the facility to le…
Why are you calling these people "Ubuntards"? I don't know about Digg or Lifehacker but the vast majority of Linux people on Reddit despise Ubuntu and use Arch instead.
can anyone confirm this comment with some data, or just anecdotally? I am an arch user, but don't use reddit, and this claim sort of worries me.
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#15Is there a short description of the algorithm anywhere? I'm too lazy to read the code.
Not lazy, just sane.
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#16Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you calling these people "Ubuntards"? I don't know about Digg or Lifehacker but the vast majority of Linux people on Reddit despise Ubuntu and use Arch instead.
can anyone confirm this comment with some data, or just anecdotally? I am an arch user, but don't use reddit, and this claim sort of worries me.
I know that http://www.reddit.com/user/dons is constantly evangelizing Haskell and Arch on reddit, to the point where he's self-parodying. He's also single-handedly responsible for there being 1314 (!) haskell packages in Arch.
At least Arch gives the tweakers a bit more rope with which to form either a noose or a lasso.
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#17Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hey, I use Ubuntu for my desktop at work, and in the past have done substantial deployments of it to managed end-user desktops. It's not beneath me or anything. I'm sneering at a particular subset of Ubuntu users -- the entire userbase of ubuntuforums.org, the Digg/Reddit/Lifehacker "top ten ways to..." readers. They are the "Power Users" of desktop Linux -- they have no clue how anything works nor the facility to le…
Why are you calling these people "Ubuntards"? I don't know about Digg or Lifehacker but the vast majority of Linux people on Reddit despise Ubuntu and use Arch instead.
Sorry, in college my officemates and I were fond of coining epithets for our annoyances (also see 'duggalo' and 'gamer scum').
If the Reddit crowd has switched to Arch, I'm happy for them. They grow up so fast!
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#18This is very exciting. I use Linux on my desktop, laptop, servers, and embedded devices. I was getting kind of tired of the latency tradeoffs made to improve throughput. The kernel developers are really good at what they do, but like most geeks, sometimes they need a virtual kick in the head to realize that there might be a better way to do something. I'll be trying out his new scheduler as soon as I get a chance to…
It's not so much that the kernel devs are actively making "latency tradeoffs" -- it's that they absolutely can't get away with regressions
It would be completely untenable if the corporate users (who are in the vast majority by every metric) ended up either not upgrading or using a fork that reverts the changes.
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#19This is very exciting. I use Linux on my desktop, laptop, servers, and embedded devices. I was getting kind of tired of the latency tradeoffs made to improve throughput. The kernel developers are really good at what they do, but like most geeks, sometimes they need a virtual kick in the head to realize that there might be a better way to do something. I'll be trying out his new scheduler as soon as I get a chance to…
It's not so much that the kernel devs are actively making "latency tradeoffs" -- it's that they absolutely can't get away with regressions It would be completely untenable if the corporate users (who are in the vast majority by every metric) ended up either not upgrading or using a fork that reverts the changes.
But any change to the scheduler is a regression for someone, more or less by definition. Do you mean that they can't change it anymore at all?
Re: Con Kolivas releases BFS, alternative to mainline scheduler
#20This is awesome, Con may have battled with the Kernel Devs in the past, however his focus on improving scheduling for desktop Linux is commendable. I for one would like to see a module or kernel for Ubuntu Jaunty that we can install from apt to play and test this baby. D.
God damn do I hope nobody distributes a build of this for ubuntards to use! Con's original scheduler had no chance of becoming the vanilla scheduler, as it was in no way general purpose, had a number of regressions, and he was a dick about the whole thing (in a community of assholes!). He was also insistent on making the scheduler modular, something that Linus and his lieutenants rightly refused outright. This new sc…
Could you explain? I can't evaluate the technical merits, but is there an alternative if you actually want a scheduler to cater to a desktop user's needs?