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Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by mietek »

tritchey wrote: post #9
joezydeco wrote: post #3

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access. This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

The touch pressure for paper is done with a new touch Radius property. The radius property on touches was available as a private API, but only made available publicly in iOS 8. The Ink and Adonit touch pixel point, which are basically the same (We manufacture the Ink and Slide for adobe) use a pressure sensitive tip in the pen itself, and communicate that pressure over Bluetooth. This gives you a much higher resoluti…

Is there any way to buy Ink & Slide in the UK?

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Post by pash »

prawn wrote: post #7

Adobe's Ink and Slide page is here: https://www.adobe.com/products/ink-and-slide.html Coincidental timing as I have been looking at getting a stylus or Wacom tablet for sketching layouts and quick notes while at my desk. My Jot Pro with Penultimate has been a bit average, unfortunately. At that With the pen and touch line, you're anchored or near your laptop/screen and sketching is detached from the "ink" on screen.…

Adonit announced their new Jot Touch [0] today, perhaps not coincidentally.

0. http://www.adonit.net/jot/touch

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by moistgorilla »

prawn wrote: post #7

Adobe's Ink and Slide page is here: https://www.adobe.com/products/ink-and-slide.html Coincidental timing as I have been looking at getting a stylus or Wacom tablet for sketching layouts and quick notes while at my desk. My Jot Pro with Penultimate has been a bit average, unfortunately. At that With the pen and touch line, you're anchored or near your laptop/screen and sketching is detached from the "ink" on screen.…

It's more then 250 dollars but I love my galaxy note 10.1 2014 edition. Got it refurbished in a groupon buy for about 350 and it works perfectly. The digitizer is wacom and the display is amazing.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by drcode »

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true!

Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is different, so other people might have more difficulty working around the limitations.

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Post by joezydeco »

i_am_ralpht wrote: post #8
joezydeco wrote: post #3

There will be a flood of products that take advantage of the touch "pressure" that iOS8 will allow developers to access. This stylus from FiftyThree also looks promising: http://vimeo.com/98146708

It's really interesting to me that most of these are just Bluetooth-connected buttons. There's no pressure or angle sensitivity in the FiftyThree Pencil, it's just a button. I tried to find the "pressure" API in iOS 8, but I just found a new majorRadius field (with an error tolerance). Android supports a bunch of information (including "pressure" and radius) -- I bet you get pretty rich data on devices with dedicated…

In a capacitive touchscreen there really is no way to measure how hard your finger is pressing on the screen. What you can measure is how large of a footprint your meat-finger creates when it smashes down on the glass. The center of the point hasn't changed, but the radius of the circle has.

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Post by hornetblack »

justinator wrote: post #4
jljljl wrote: post #2

I guess this is the result of Adobe's Might & Napoleon experiment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULKXTKZor3A Too bad about the name change, I thought the name Napoleon (because it's a short ruler) was charmingly clever.

But, Napoleon wasn't short, compared to his contemporaries.

Napoleon wasn't short by most measures. The myth comes from two issues: Napoleon used tall soldiers in his personal guard, and British people said it to make fun of him.

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by awa »

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

Why not use a surface pro in this case?

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by higherpurpose »

I wish Google put more focus on better supporting highly accurate pens in all Android versions. Right now only Samsung does that, pretty much, and even they have started losing interest a bit, I think, and they've made their latest Note tablets very expensive, too.

I was hoping Nvidia would launch another Tegra Note tablet with its cheap but very accurate stylus, but at 10", and for $300 or less, but it should've arrived by now, and it hasn't.

There's also Qualcomm's Snapdragon 805 processor, which promises "ultrasound inking" [1] of some sort, that seems like a pretty cool technology, but might also be supported only by a few devices, at most. So I think it's ultimately up to Google to make a bigger push for this, but unfortunately I think Google has zero interest in this.

[1] - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9w2oEWZ-mY

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by i_am_ralpht »

tritchey wrote: post #10
i_am_ralpht wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's really interesting to me that most of these are just Bluetooth-connected buttons. There's no pressure or angle sensitivity in the FiftyThree Pencil, it's just a button. I tried to find the "pressure" API in iOS 8, but I just found a new majorRadius field (with an error tolerance). Android supports a bunch of information (including "pressure" and radius) -- I bet you get pretty rich data on devices with dedicated…

FWIW, the Ink is a lot more than that, including accelerometer data, and pressure sensitivity.

That's cool; thanks for sharing.

So you could use the accelerometer independently of the touchscreen for gestures like flicking ink blots or swishing the "brush" in "water" -- or maybe you can do some fancy things on the screen like tapping on the same spot for stippling (using the accelerometer to approximate height and velocity, independent of the final pressure on the tip). There's so much fun stuff to do here!

Re: Adobe's New Pen and Ruler

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Post by baby »

drcode wrote: post #14

I would marginally be considered a "professional artist" and I am salivating about these devices after seeing them in action. For me, the combination of accurate stylus, retina display, and that slider thingy are a dream come true! Sure, the iPad software that accompanies these programs is pretty wimpy, but I can easily work around these limitations with some post processing. However, every artist's workflow is diffe…

> "professional artist"

I understand the novelty of drawing on an iPad. But I've tried it many times and it's just not accurate at all. You just have to look at the tip of those pens to understand that. IMO Cintiq is the only way to go if you're serious about "art". On the other side, if you use that kind of things for notes and rapid prototyping, why not.

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