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How America became uncompetitive and unequal

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Re: How America became uncompetitive and unequal

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This opinion piece articulates something I've felt for a long time... consolidation is the biggest problem in America right now, scratch that, in the World. One thing that I can't comprehend is how right-wing free-market ideologues can get behind all the consolidation. Cant they see that consolidation is just like communism? Only a competitive market with many players can ensure progress continues.

Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

> Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo.

Um, no. No, it's not. At all.

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This opinion piece articulates something I've felt for a long time... consolidation is the biggest problem in America right now, scratch that, in the World. One thing that I can't comprehend is how right-wing free-market ideologues can get behind all the consolidation. Cant they see that consolidation is just like communism? Only a competitive market with many players can ensure progress continues.

Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo.

I agree that the comparison to communism is silly, but not for this reason. Ultimately, communism is about how the economy is structured, one important feature being that there is no private ownership of capital (though other forms of private property are okay). In other words, a world of capitalist consolidation/monopolies is indeed nothing like communism.

There could (and should) still be freedom to change the status quo in a communist economic system though.

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Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart)

Putting Walmart in parenthesis here is a bit dishonest. Almost every kind of business benefits from consolidation, because of economies of scale. You might just as well have put Burger King, KFC, or any other chain of anything into parenthesis.

Same is true in the high-tech industry, by the way. Just look at the big players in the web, but also count the number of remaining chip foundries on the planet.

In all those cases, power is concentrated into few hands, which we know to be problematic from history.

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This opinion piece articulates something I've felt for a long time... consolidation is the biggest problem in America right now, scratch that, in the World. One thing that I can't comprehend is how right-wing free-market ideologues can get behind all the consolidation. Cant they see that consolidation is just like communism? Only a competitive market with many players can ensure progress continues.

Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

>Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory capture has occured (eg taxi licences, car dealerships). Todays consolidated behemoth is tomorrows has-been company - as long as the laws allow them to fall apart when they can no longer innovate and compete.

That doesn't hold up to reality, as proven by what has happen ed with banks, hospitals, and health insurance over the past 30 years (regulations make entry a bit more capital-intense, but if you have enough willpower and minimum capital you can start a bank).

>It's a misunderstanding to think that competition requires many players to be effective.

It's part of a definition of a free market : atomicity of actors. In a free market, no single actor can influence price.

>I'll be the first to admit that the last part is the most difficult to achieve, but it's no reason to abandon the concept of the game.

The concept of the game involves an infinite amount of really tiny boxers, not two world champions. All the math around free markets bringing prosperity is based around this fact (among a couple other prerequisites). You can't just abandon it.

Anti-trust and anti-monopoly laws are basically the most pro-free-market laws we can make.

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Consolidation is also favored by cheap money (yes, back to money monopoly thingy). Above some threshold and especially if you are in good relations with a bank, it is far easier to buy your competitors and dismantle them by selling their assets than to compete with them. It's ironic how in the failed communist centralized economies, the economic policy was dictated by "elected" nomenklatura and it was BAD, while in the "free/democratic" market economies the control is held by unaccountable private banks and nobody worries much.

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I have a different take on this article than most. I'm a proponent of Classical economics, and I reject all modern schools of economics--neoclassical, Austrian, Keynesian, etc. Classical thinkers like Adam Smith expounded how rational self-interest and competition together lead to economic prosperity. There's a balancing act going on between self-interest and competition--competition is the economic faculty that rest…

Keynesianism lauds government monopoly power; while neoclassicism and Austrianism foster private monopoly power. Both are evil.

At least in the case of government, you may feel that it is evil, but it is necessary [0]. So the more pragmatic and productive approach would be to think about how this monopoly power could be used to further prosperity and equity of the people.

Today, the Left favors reforms to give government more monopoly power. While the Right favors reforms that give firms more monopoly power.

I think both those characterizations are a bit simplistic. Look at the discussion surrounding surveillance, secret courts and the police state, for example.

[0] This is true even within the economy: having a common measure of value is important for doing business, so you need currencies to have large scopes. Whoever ultimately controls a currency necessarily has a lot of monopoly power. So the question is not whether such powers exist, but how they should be structured subject to goals that we need to set for ourselves as a society.

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This opinion piece articulates something I've felt for a long time... consolidation is the biggest problem in America right now, scratch that, in the World. One thing that I can't comprehend is how right-wing free-market ideologues can get behind all the consolidation. Cant they see that consolidation is just like communism? Only a competitive market with many players can ensure progress continues.

Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

> Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory capture has occured (eg taxi licences, car dealerships).

Value for whom?

The problem is that "effective way to deliver value" is measured in terms of corporate profit (value to shareholders), not in terms of the actual thing being produced. So firms can produce less value to the economy at-large (fewer flights, worse beer, etc.), at greater cost to the consumer/supply chain, and still increase value.

The entire article is indicting this setup, where companies screw over their customers and suppliers in order to produce value for a few already very wealthy individuals who hold large stakes in the corporation.

This is how low-competitive environments work. Period. And it's not commie nonsense (unless Goldman Sachs are part of a massive commie conspiracy). From the article:

Goldman Sachs in February published a research memo advising investors to seek out “oligopolistic market structure[s]” in which “a smaller set of relevant peers faces lower competitive intensity, greater stickiness and pricing power with customers due to reduced choice, scale cost benefits including stronger leverage over suppliers, and higher barriers to new entrants all at once.”

> In many cases, you only need two players and threat of entry to any others for competition to be successful at optimal use of resources.

First of all, there's not much of a threat to entry when one or two companies own the entire market and there's a huge cost to entry. Have you seen many airline start-ups in the past half century or so?

Furthermore, it's possible to price like a monopoly when you only have one or two major competitors and everyone is part of a gentleman's agreement. Implicit, of course, but these aren't pricing cartels in the same sense that PACs don't coordinate with political campaigns.

The boxing match analogy is inherently flawed because these companies can still win big without wiping out all their competition. There is no gold medal when everyone's happy splitting the enormous pot of gold.

In fact, most seem to desire a situation where they have one "friendly" competitor so that they get all the perks of monopolistic position via an implicit gentleman's agreement on pricing, while still having the luxury of pointing across the street whenever regulators come around.

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Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

> Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. Um, no. No, it's not. At all.

It's quite funny how little people know about communism, why it appeared, how it developed and what influence it had over capitalism & why it collapsed although less than 25 years passed since its collapse.

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The answer is simple : economic freedom. If companies have the right to merge, it's not because "right-wing free-market ideologues" think it is best for the economy, it's because it is their business and they are free to organize it as they will. Saying that only "many players can ensure progress continues" and thus prohibiting companies to merge is interfering with economic freedom in the name of "I know better", an…

You could not possibly be more wrong. Monpolies are the exact opposite of economic freedom and amount to a planned economy, except the plan is not even nominally for the good of everyone.

While I agree with you, I would point out that planned economy plans are rarely "for the good of everyone". Planmakers tend to enrich themselves and their buddies.

I'm tempted to write never, but there might have been that one historical event when it went right.

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Except that it is nothing like communism. Communism is defined by a complete lack of freedom to change the status quo. In turn, the lack of freedom to change the status quo means that development and progress is dramatically slowed, slowing down improvements in quality of life - as people themselves would prefer. Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory…

> Consolidation only persists where it is either an effective way to deliver value (Walmart) or regulatory capture has occured (eg taxi licences, car dealerships). Value for whom? The problem is that "effective way to deliver value" is measured in terms of corporate profit (value to shareholders), not in terms of the actual thing being produced. So firms can produce less value to the economy at-large (fewer flights,…

Value for who? PLEASE! Get real! Wal-Mart delivers value for shareholders because they attract customers because they're cheaper and more efficient.

But I suppose some people rather vilify its customers, under the delusion that tens of millions of America's poorest could magically lift themselves out of poverty by spending more money on manufacturing and transportation costs and on people working at cash registers. Bah.

(And the grocery market in general is anything but low-competition.)

Re: How America became uncompetitive and unequal

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Consolidation is also favored by cheap money (yes, back to money monopoly thingy). Above some threshold and especially if you are in good relations with a bank, it is far easier to buy your competitors and dismantle them by selling their assets than to compete with them. It's ironic how in the failed communist centralized economies, the economic policy was dictated by "elected" nomenklatura and it was BAD, while in t…

As Arthur Clarke would say: Any sufficiently advanced "bread and circuses" is indistinguishable from freedom and democracy.
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