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Re: Only Apple

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Post by markdown » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:51 PM UTC

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN.

Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am?

Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink into this level of naval grazing. But I'd never have the time or motive to publish my drivel.

Thousands of hours are going to be wasted reading this shit, and to what end?

Clearly many people gained lots of value from this article, or it wouldn't be at the top of HN. Could one of you please explain what the value was? What did you gain from reading the article?

Re: Only Apple

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Post by leorocky » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:53 PM UTC

There is always a lot of careful insight in Gruber's posts that I like but it is tainted with a type of enthusiasm that doesn't belong in journalism. Even if he is correct, being a cheerleader with liberal praise isn't analysis. It's opinion, and Gruber often reads like an opinionist. Apple is an amazing position to build all kinds of wonderful technology, and Samsung does come across as a shallow copy cat that throws shit on the wall and sees if it sticks, and it's good someone points that out, but Samsung is also really good at being a copycat, and they make amazing displays and their software is getting better even as they plaster it with more junk apps. It's just not so black and white, and to always frame it in such a way hurts credibility.

I've tried in the past to follow Gruber regularly but there is just too much defensive negativity in his posts. I can only check it off and on, reading him every day would make me unhappy.

Re: Only Apple

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Post by slm_HN » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:53 PM UTC

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Re: Only Apple

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Post by sscalia » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:53 PM UTC

markdown wrote: post #11

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN. Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am? Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink in…

Did you really post this just now?

Re: Only Apple

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Post by Bud » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:53 PM UTC

markdown wrote: post #11

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN. Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am? Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink in…

I don't feel like addressing your question directly, but it is ironic that the criticism of Gruber is coming from a user named "markdown", which is something Gruber invented. :)

Re: Only Apple

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Post by sscalia » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:54 PM UTC

Bud wrote: post #15

markdown wrote: post #11

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN. Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am? Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink in…

I don't feel like addressing your question directly, but it is ironic that the criticism of Gruber is coming from a user named "markdown", which is something Gruber invented. :)

I wanted to point that out too. Heh.

hi five

Re: Only Apple

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Post by markdown » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:54 PM UTC

sscalia wrote: post #7

I find it hard to argue with any of the points he makes. I'm sure someone here will, but I found myself doing the mental "gulp of air and raising a finger" then getting silenced again. I really wish Microsoft had pulled off Windows Phone; it arguably had a much better user experience than Android did (and still does) -- and interesting Nokia hardware. I simply don't believe Google has the best interests of anyone at…

> I simply don't believe Google has the best interests of anyone at heart except themselves and advertisers.

You think Apple has your interests at heart? Or Microsoft?

Like Google, they have your cash at heart. Not a thing more.

Re: Only Apple

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Post by pinaceae » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:54 PM UTC

markdown wrote: post #11

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN. Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am? Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink in…

because this is about competing eco-systems and if you make your living writing software that runs in those eco-systems ("apps"), the health and capabilities of said systems is critical.

iOS/OSX vs. Android/Chrome vs. Windows8/WP8

if you're just a consumer, then yes, not so interesting, but then this whole forum might not be for you.

Re: Only Apple

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Post by thrownaway2424 » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:55 PM UTC

Gruber waves off the other players' devices or operating systems, but takes Apple's web services / cloud infrastructure as a given. Here in reality, Apple's web services are atrocious. Weirdly implemented, slow, and frequently unavailable backend services are not a healthy part of the triad that Gruber is proposing.

Re: Only Apple

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Post by seiji » Fri, Jun 13, 2014, 11:55 PM UTC

markdown wrote: post #11

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN. Company A does this and Company B does that and these two are a little similar but not really and this other Company wants this but can't get it. Only this Company. Yeah not that Company. See I figured all this out; see how smart I am? Now and then on a lazy sunday morning with a cuppa in hand and the business news in my lap, I sink in…

I don't get what the significance of this post is, and why it is at the top of HN.

It's a thoughtful and timely analysis about the most important company currently in existence which many people routinely fail to understand or simply dismiss out of hand due to preexisting prejudice or misplaced nerd allegiance.