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Soylent Taste Test

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Re: Soylent Taste Test

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I don't understand why Soylent receives the press it does, meal-replacement shakes have been on the market for quite a long time. The entire phenomenon seems to just be a marketing gimmick around some misguided notion of it "replacing food".

Soylent - "Ensure for Nerds"

Re: Soylent Taste Test

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post #6

I don't understand why Soylent receives the press it does, meal-replacement shakes have been on the market for quite a long time. The entire phenomenon seems to just be a marketing gimmick around some misguided notion of it "replacing food".

Meal replacement shakes are expensive, inefficient, and unhealthy compared to Soylent.

They usually ship with the liquid/water mixed in, and the cost/kcal is substantially higher, with the carbohydrate concentrations much, much higher.

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My biggest gripe, which has me real close to complaining to the times about it, is he didn't even talk about any of the other avenues of flavoring the product that the owners advertise themselves. Never once mentioned adding chocolate, or vanilla, or peanut butter. You can add anything you want. It helps, isn't great, but it makes it much better. Also he didn't mention if he left it in the fridge for a few hours to let it settle. Which you're supposed to do in order to let the rice protein mix well. All of which the owners mention, but no actual facts are in the article. It felt like he wanted to complain.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The eventual goal is not just as a meal replacement but a full diet replacement that eventually won't need to leverage crops, for areas with no arable land. Most meal replacement shakes I've seen (not including those used in the medical industry) aren't suitable to replace your entire diet with and are generally very expensive per meal because of this. Most also warn against using the product to replace every meal wi…

"a full diet replacement that eventually won't need to leverage crops, for areas with no arable land." How will they make soylent? there are plenty of foods with 100kcal per/0z. that are shelf stable and natural (and healthy). Shipping in powder X vs other food Y is a false differentiation. Its neither more healthy nor, nor less bulky, nor cheaper to ship. Lastly, you will need to ship in water which is 4-5x the weig…

You ship them soylent... watch the videos if you are interested. The problem to solve world hunger is not growing the food, it's logistics.

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post #7
post #6

I don't understand why Soylent receives the press it does, meal-replacement shakes have been on the market for quite a long time. The entire phenomenon seems to just be a marketing gimmick around some misguided notion of it "replacing food".

The eventual goal is not just as a meal replacement but a full diet replacement that eventually won't need to leverage crops, for areas with no arable land. Most meal replacement shakes I've seen (not including those used in the medical industry) aren't suitable to replace your entire diet with and are generally very expensive per meal because of this. Most also warn against using the product to replace every meal wi…

> Most meal replacement shakes I've seen (not including those used in the medical industry) aren't suitable to replace your entire diet with

We literally do not know that. Similarly, we cannot know that about soylent either. Because we simply do not know enough about human nutrition to be making these kinds of statements yet. The government's "Recommended Daily Intake" system is just a veneer over our relatively primitive understanding of nutrition to help give us some very basic possible guidelines (which are still quite susceptible to being wrong). The unfortunate part is that people take these 'recommendations' to mean that we virtually know all there is to know about nutrition when that is truly far from reality...

I'm confident that we'll get there eventually, but first the quality of nutritional research will have to improve significantly, and it'll be far more work than any one meal-replacement company can hope to realistically invest in. So as much as I am for soylent 'pushing the boundaries' in that area, it's gonna take a lot more than that to get us a full-diet-replacement figured out for sure.

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I don't understand why Soylent receives the press it does, meal-replacement shakes have been on the market for quite a long time. The entire phenomenon seems to just be a marketing gimmick around some misguided notion of it "replacing food".

Is that necessarily a gimmick? Meal replacement shakes may have been around for a while, but they haven't been marketing to me. If Soylent can successfully market to a larger/different demographic than Ensure has been, then aren't they like any other company that introduces a new product into an existing market? Is there anything bad/dishonest about that approach?

Not to mention i've been dying for this type of product for a long time, and have not been aware of a meal replacement shake that is intended for this level of consumption.

People can argue the health implications all they want, but to argue that this isn't anything new.. well, maybe i'm missing something, but it's quite new to me.

Considering that i've been wanting this product for the last 15 years - I'd say at the very least the others (whatever they may be) were a marketing failure.

Re: Soylent Taste Test

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"a full diet replacement that eventually won't need to leverage crops, for areas with no arable land." How will they make soylent? there are plenty of foods with 100kcal per/0z. that are shelf stable and natural (and healthy). Shipping in powder X vs other food Y is a false differentiation. Its neither more healthy nor, nor less bulky, nor cheaper to ship. Lastly, you will need to ship in water which is 4-5x the weig…

You ship them soylent... watch the videos if you are interested. The problem to solve world hunger is not growing the food, it's logistics.

The problem to solve world hunger is to be able to distribute staple crops more efficiently to places which don't have access to existing markets. There's no conceivable way that some highly refined meal-replacement product for the first world can be more economical than access to bulk amounts of grains. Even Soylent as an emergency food is an order of magnitude less economical than the existing solutions for famine relief, which are themselves extremely expensive in bulk.

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"The modern man does what he can so that he doesn't have to walk, doesn't have to lift heavy things, doesn't have to sweat, doesn't have to meet others in person, doesn't have to take responsibility, doesn't have to love, doesn't have to hate, doesn't have to care, doesn't have to cook and even doesn't have to eat! So in the end he doesn't have anything! He has no life left as it all has been artificially removed from him so that he could just do nothing, accomplish nothing, think nothing, be nothing and live not and be comfortably nothing. Comfort is death. Life is a struggle. Life is a messy, unsanitary and trigger tripping struggle."

Re: Soylent Taste Test

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My biggest gripe, which has me real close to complaining to the times about it, is he didn't even talk about any of the other avenues of flavoring the product that the owners advertise themselves. Never once mentioned adding chocolate, or vanilla, or peanut butter. You can add anything you want. It helps, isn't great, but it makes it much better. Also he didn't mention if he left it in the fridge for a few hours to l…

Possibly. At any rate, the loss/gain of Soylent is all about the type of person you are. I don't expect someone who doesn't see the appeal/desire of Soylent, to enjoy drinking it.. Rob didn't intend for that.. it's supposed to be cheap, neutral, and healthy. Nothing more, nothing less.

With that said, i'm super excited for it, and i've been drinking DIY "Soylent" for a few days now, since i'm getting impatient waiting for official soylent, and i couldn't be happier. It's everything i wanted. Once the official stuff gets here, i'll spend even less time preparing, and in theory it will taste better too (mainly less grit).

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