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Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

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Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#11
Issue is severe, but the proposed solution does not sound efficient in any way. In comparison to blackout day:

1. Turning site off is a lot easier than installing apache module and configuring it. What if site admin does not even have root access?

2. Customer getting the slow site load might not get the message, but instead turn around for a competitor. [1]

[1] 40% of people abandon a website that takes more than 3 seconds to load. - http://blog.kissmetrics.com/loading-time/

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#13
post #10

Much more effective would be for operators to ban ISPs. Imagine the internet telling specific users that they have to get off comcast or whatever in order to use their service for a particular day out of every month. Do it maddox style with a nice middle finger. Make users want to switch instead of just pretend like there's no alternatives.

>Much more effective would be for operators to ban ISPs. I heartily disagree with this approach. Not only does it harken back to the days of Prodigy, AOL, CompuServe and the like where each service had its own content, but it's very anti-internet. >Make users want to switch That's great if there are alternatives to switch to. Yes, I could technically switch to dialup. It is technically internet. It's not going to all…

> I live in an area where Comcast literally is my only option for high-speed internet. I'm not pretending.

IIRC most of the country lives in areas where there are only 1 or 2 broadband options. The non-cable operator is likely to be a Baby Bell that's also spent heavily to lobby the FCC to kill net neutrality and so wouldn't be an effective protest switch.

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#14

Much more effective would be for operators to ban ISPs. Imagine the internet telling specific users that they have to get off comcast or whatever in order to use their service for a particular day out of every month. Do it maddox style with a nice middle finger. Make users want to switch instead of just pretend like there's no alternatives.

The alternatives are to go without and enjoy the fresh air, pay up for the data cap and live with the low bandwidth (it sucks but it's not as sucky as Comcast), setup a mesh network, lobby your local government, move.

Let me guess, if you all were naturalists, you would all live in the heart of New York and complain to your neighbors (but not your city) all day about the lack of green.

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#15
This would be great and informative and effective, except that the most visible sites* have no incentive to play along with this little song and dance, as they are the ones proliferating anti-net-neutrality for their own private gain.

So it will basically just look to people like I'm running a shitty technical job serving my site, most people will think I'm stupid, they won't learn a damn thing about net neutrality or why it's important, and stop visiting my site in the process. =/

* that many people use exclusively with their internet-time, like Youtube, facebook, Netflix, etc

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#16
post #6

How about something simpler - Make images load slowly using JS. A ton of popular consumer sites - facebook, instagram, reddit/imgur are hugely image based. A few lines of JS to make them slowly load (perhaps PNG artifacts for bonus points) and you could very effectively get the point across all while quickly serving a nice large banner. Offtopic: As a google fiber customer myself, his mention of not remembering the u…

exactly, with a clear alert/popup explaining what's going on and allowing you to switch it on/off.

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#17

This blog has now made it to my global blocking file for serving the entire post as an image file instead of as text.

That's strange. I got the text. Looks like a normal wordpress blog thing

  
					
						

Yesterday when we were having Comcast issues....

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#18
One main problem with any attempt by a site to slow down its service is that all similar/competitor sites must slow down equally. Otherwise we get the game of one site provider not slowing down (or slowing down as much) because of the incentive: if they are faster, they generate more visits than competitors.

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

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Would users actually notice?

And, really, users who have bought based on price per Mb download speed without any other metric are partly to blame for this. If users had been honestly buying based on bandwidth used we would not have ISPs offering "unlimited (until you hit the limits)" internet connectivity. (This is not to excuse the ISPs for their sleazy misleading advertising).

Give people a price per GB and then tell them how many GB they download each month. Price that GB sensibly and route traffic fairly.

Re: Dear Internet: Let’s Demo The Slow Lane

#20
post #6

How about something simpler - Make images load slowly using JS. A ton of popular consumer sites - facebook, instagram, reddit/imgur are hugely image based. A few lines of JS to make them slowly load (perhaps PNG artifacts for bonus points) and you could very effectively get the point across all while quickly serving a nice large banner. Offtopic: As a google fiber customer myself, his mention of not remembering the u…

> How about something simpler - Make images load slowly using JS.

I do like this idea. However, as one of the minority of people who have disabled js by default, I'd hope this could be done in a way that doesn't break websites.

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