Just to be clear, these are people with either a BS or a BA in Computer Science, right?
No, this is not the case as I know at least 3 past students in this class that did not have a CS background at all.
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#12Awesome, though it might take a bit of air out of the tech-as-a-solution-to-jobs when one hears the qualifier "BTW, they're university-educated CS majors." (At a university with an absolutely terrible career services department, even by the low standards of career services departments.)
The students in the last class were not CS majors and I doubt that is a requirement to participate in the future ones. The quote makes it sound like this, though.
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#13Earlier quoted context omitted.
My head almost exploded from sloppy statistics reading the article. > Six months after the first Access Code class of 21 students completed the 18 week course, the 15 graduates who accepted job offers have seen their income rise from under $15,000 to an average of $72,190; the other six students are either still in college or have chosen to launch their own startups 1: Those not getting a job were not included in the…
1. Yes that's what they said. The average included those who accepted job offers. 2. After paying $20,000 a year and/or going in to debt.
I don't think people are charged $20,000. Alexis Ohanian is raising money for the program, and he has a goal of $20,000. That fundraiser also says that the program awards partial and full scholarships.
Also, the NY Daily News is saying they are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the program to pay for 100 students. So that would put the cost at around $10,000 per person without scholarships. http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/queens/queens-techies-fu...
I didn't see any figures about how much the average student paid though. I would be interested in that figure.
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#14Just to be clear, these are people with either a BS or a BA in Computer Science, right?
Nope, this is like everyone doing websites in the 90's during the dotcom bubble.
All small business trying to find honest people ended up hiring someone's 12yr old cousin (trhu a spiffy LLC front) and ended up with worst-than-useless websites full of security holes and zero accessibility.
Hope those projects are all games and fart apps and not mission critical stuff. and since i have a very hard time thinking of mission critical apps, i think the world will endure.
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#15"We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry...It was a lot of access and network problems, and a lack of technical training."
This is really confusing. How do you graduate as a computer science major and lack technical training? And if that's the case, how does such a faculty remain in business?
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#16Just to be clear, these are people with either a BS or a BA in Computer Science, right?
Hi, I'm the founder of the organization. 85% of the class had never written a line of code before. We believe that there are people in Queens and other underserved communities who can learn to code and also pursue tech entrepreneurship.
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1. Yes that's what they said. The average included those who accepted job offers. 2. After paying $20,000 a year and/or going in to debt.
I don't think people are charged $20,000. Alexis Ohanian is raising money for the program, and he has a goal of $20,000. That fundraiser also says that the program awards partial and full scholarships. Also, the NY Daily News is saying they are trying to raise $1,000,000 for the program to pay for 100 students. So that would put the cost at around $10,000 per person without scholarships. http://www.nydailynews.com/ne…
The program is fully scholarship oriented, we intend to serve low income communities so that adults can all backgrounds can enter the tech industry. Our students were from 18-37, most were not in college at the time and didn't know how to code. We also believe it's not just about working at a tech company, we want to empower those through the course to be tech entrepreneurs. Those that aren't working are pursuing their own projects and launching new ventures. The income mobility statistic shows potential for what coding can do to raise income and improve peoples lives, but it's important for us to increase opportunity for people to create their own startups and apps.
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#18"We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry...It was a lot of access and network problems, and a lack of technical training." This is really confusing. How do you graduate as a computer science major and lack technical training? And if that's the case, how does such a faculty remain in business?
There are CS majors that learn foundational skills but don't learn practical frameworks that companies are looking for. Also, there many other adults from other backgrounds that never have a chance to learn iOS or ruby or code. We want to provide those opportunities and build a new pipeline of technical talent, particularly for underserved communities.
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#19Just to be clear, these are people with either a BS or a BA in Computer Science, right?
Hi, I'm the founder of the organization. 85% of the class had never written a line of code before. We believe that there are people in Queens and other underserved communities who can learn to code and also pursue tech entrepreneurship.
Your quote in the articles says -- "We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry" --- You can't graduate as a CS major without writing any code...So this quote has nothing to do with the people actually in your program?
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#20"We saw lots of people in the City University of New York system who graduated as computer science majors but weren't going into the tech industry...It was a lot of access and network problems, and a lack of technical training." This is really confusing. How do you graduate as a computer science major and lack technical training? And if that's the case, how does such a faculty remain in business?
There are CS majors that learn foundational skills but don't learn practical frameworks that companies are looking for. Also, there many other adults from other backgrounds that never have a chance to learn iOS or ruby or code. We want to provide those opportunities and build a new pipeline of technical talent, particularly for underserved communities.
> There are CS majors that learn foundational skills but don't learn practical frameworks that companies are looking for.
How many CS majors at more prestigious schools learn iOS or Ruby on Rails through their classes? I think they usually learn on their own or through internships.