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Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

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post #4

This already exists on Wikipedia. Under preferences, select the Gadgets tab and enable "Navigation popups". When hovering over a link in a Wikipedia article, a small popup will appear, in addition to some metadata about the link, the first paragraph of the article will appear, including links that may appear in that paragraph, which can also be hovered to make another popup appear.

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Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

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I want my computer to get a concept of what I know. It should then gray out stuff I know and linkify stuff that might be new to me. Semantic Web is the key word here. Decades of research went into that but this magic tool still is not anywhere near yet.

Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

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post #4

This already exists on Wikipedia. Under preferences, select the Gadgets tab and enable "Navigation popups". When hovering over a link in a Wikipedia article, a small popup will appear, in addition to some metadata about the link, the first paragraph of the article will appear, including links that may appear in that paragraph, which can also be hovered to make another popup appear.

Link: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Tools/Navigation_pop...

Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/lySrN1I.png

Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

#16
post #4

This already exists on Wikipedia. Under preferences, select the Gadgets tab and enable "Navigation popups". When hovering over a link in a Wikipedia article, a small popup will appear, in addition to some metadata about the link, the first paragraph of the article will appear, including links that may appear in that paragraph, which can also be hovered to make another popup appear.

Well, Navigation popups seems something a bit different for me and not at all something intended for general consumption like the proposed changes (that I think is great).

First of all you need to have a Wikipedia account to enable them, and second this is something intended as an help for the editors. Wikipedia description of this function is:

"article previews and editing functions popup when hovering over links"

Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

#17
Incidentally, this was what my diploma thesis was about. The basic idea was to have a single »text« that contains lots of possible branching or expansion points, depending on certain criteria. Depending on those criteria you'd get a expanded or contracted text to read that would be tailored to what you already know or are interested about. Altering the text in small parts (like [−1½] mentioned in another comment – I found that one much later, though) was one part of it; inline expansions if necessary or wanted were a possible UX enhancement I thought of (avoiding a completely static text where you'd have to tell the engine everything beforehand).

Use cases I thought of were mainly adjusting texts explaining things (e.g. Wikipedia, school books, etc.) to the already existing knowledge of the reader. So that an article explaining a concept could look radically different (and going into increasingly more detail) depending on what the reader already knows. One proof of concept I created was adjusting the German Wikipedia article on Turing machines to three different levels (school, 1st semester CS student, 4th semester CS student) [75.3]. What each level does is either explaining things differently or leaving out parts altogether (no need horrifying a pupil with formulae). So my main focus was on providing something that reads well (expanding things inline still incur a context switch because they're not part of the original narrative) and finding a way how to model such things. Nothing automatic because a clear semantic model is needed for that to work.

Thesis can be found at [0.046], it's in German, but the abstract is in English too. Just in case someone might be interested in that.

[−1½] http://www.telescopictext.com/ mentioned by https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7602335

[75.3] http://hypftier.de/temp/turing.html – sorry, it's in German, but Google Translate seems to work fine.

[0.046] http://hypftier.de/temp/Diplomarbeit.pdf

Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

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post #4

This already exists on Wikipedia. Under preferences, select the Gadgets tab and enable "Navigation popups". When hovering over a link in a Wikipedia article, a small popup will appear, in addition to some metadata about the link, the first paragraph of the article will appear, including links that may appear in that paragraph, which can also be hovered to make another popup appear.

Well, Navigation popups seems something a bit different for me and not at all something intended for general consumption like the proposed changes (that I think is great). First of all you need to have a Wikipedia account to enable them, and second this is something intended as an help for the editors. Wikipedia description of this function is: "article previews and editing functions popup when hovering over links"

Well, even the Hovercards under Beta features also require a user account. And of course, there is the downside of now only having it enabled on the English Wikipedia.

What about the German or French Wikipedia? What about Wiktionary? Oh man, that is going to be hard.

Indeed, Navigation popups is not perfect and it is intended for editors first. But I mostly use it for speeding up my browsing.

But writing a general tool for all MediaWiki installations is going to be quite the task; a lot of MediaWiki wikis don't even have opening paragraphs like Wikipedia does (see Wiktionary for example). Sure, we can make some compromises and accept that non-encyclopaedia styled wikis don't apply to this tool.

I'd love to see a Firefox extension that did this. But for now; either Hovercards or Navigation popups provides the basics of the requested functionality.

Re: I wish I could read Wikipedia like this

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post #14
post #7

Wikipedia currently has a Beta feature name Hovercards You can enable it here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Preferences#mw-prefsec...

Thank you! I've had this feature for about 10 minutes and I already find it indispensable.

Agreed! How have I lived without this...
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