Capitalism isn't working and here are the reasons why
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#12£142,000 per annum - David Cameron
Richard Branson earns that in a little over a week.
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#13http://www.hitrecord.org/users/jeffpeff
So what’s happening is that the people who are sitting on vast quantities of wealth, say in the fossil fuel industry, or mining, agriculture, fishing, etc are able to write IOUs and maintain control of their resources in the meantime to compound themselves.
But people who have nothing but the sweat of their brow are unable to obtain capital, because their IOUs can only be cashed in at a speed of 1:1. So people instinctively don’t extend them credit, because they aren’t willing to wait potentially forever to get paid back.
As overall wealth increases, one would like to see individual leverage increase too. So for example if the net worth of the world doubles, people should be able to borrow against the new wealth that’s been created. But the frequent outcome of capitalism is that leverage reaches runaway positive feedback for people at the source, while the majority of the population on the outskirts becomes mired in day to day survival.
So most of the stuff we generally hear about how low taxes stimulate the economy or whatnot are rubbish because they merely raise the slope of the line from top to bottom. If we want to talk about getting the economic gears turning, then we have to start with giving people at the bottom more leverage so they can multiply their efforts.
For a concrete example: one of the key ways we went wrong since the 80s was compound interest. There are other kinds of loans, for example underwriting, where someone buys a horse with the understanding that they will pay back two horse’s worth of grain. They only have the lifetime of the horse to make it happen. If it doesn’t happen, the lender is out a horse and the borrower is out the several years of life it took to fail in the venture. This idea that upon failure the borrower must then also pay back the original loan is nonsense. The lender relies on the fruit of the borrower’s labors to eat (that is, unless he or she is willing to stop lending and eat horses). The price of that free lunch is risk. There used to be codes of dignity, where if people tried hard and failed, the community helped them try again. But if people let their horse die of thirst, they would get thrown in jail. But now we’re so disconnected from one another that these codes have been reworked into “incentives” which don’t accurately reflect how human beings begin ventures by lending or borrowing capital. We accept the reality that 6 billion people in the world are essentially paying compound interest without questioning why we’ve chosen a system like that among many.
I’m thinking that a possible (and probable) alternative to capitalism in the 21st century is going to be non-capital based leverage. So for example if you can install a solar panel on your roof and not have to pay your electric bill, you’ve just increased your leverage by the amount that you used to pay for electricity. The same could happen with food, transportation, even education. I can easily imagine a point where most goods and services are provided through automated means and the average person would have the leisure time and affluence of say, a millionaire today. I use that as a litmus test whenever I hear new ideas in economics or politics and find that generally the approaches being pitched are contrary to what would help everyone across the board.
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#14Capitalism is working. Statism isn't.
I'll just leave this here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
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#16Capitalism is working. Statism isn't.
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#17I don't think the wealthy necessarily represent political power. I think corporate lobbyists are more to blame than the ultra wealthy as individuals.
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#18Seems important to note that the article doesn't seem to be about capitalism per se , but "business-friendly" capitalism as currently practiced in the U.S. and parts of Europe. In that regard the conclusion (regarding wealth inequality) really isn't that surprising. If the ROI of having money is really higher than the ROI of earning money (i.e. by wages) then the conclusion over time is as simple as the solution to a…
My understanding is that is actually "Crony Capitalism", which then if the article redefined it as such, I would agree.
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#19Marx's argument for the inevitability of extreme wealth disparity and at some point a breakdown in the capitalist system is too long to put here, but I can summarize it somewhat. A worker is creating wealth - why else would a company employ him? Let us say he works as a carpenter for a furniture store. He takes $800 worth of wood, nails etc. every day and through his labor makes it into $1000 worth of desks, cabinets…
Marx is saying: worker produces X value and is payed Y, and since Y Well, to begin with, the situation where X So X - Y, is what? Pure profit in bosses pocket? Not really...
It's the cost of everything needed for the company and for the worker to do their job
It's the job security (even a tiny one like in some states in the US)
Yes, whatever is left is the profit, and a small profit times the number of employees is the profit of the company, and if someone thinks it's unfair they're welcome to start their own company and compete (which is why cartels, oligopolies, monopolies are so damaging)
Re: Capitalism isn't working and here are the reasons why
#20Marx's argument for the inevitability of extreme wealth disparity and at some point a breakdown in the capitalist system is too long to put here, but I can summarize it somewhat. A worker is creating wealth - why else would a company employ him? Let us say he works as a carpenter for a furniture store. He takes $800 worth of wood, nails etc. every day and through his labor makes it into $1000 worth of desks, cabinets…
It's unclear whether the slowdown in US/EU real GDP growth is (a) dysfunction of capitalism, due to what you described, or (b) a "cooling" effect as global inequality of nations (as it should) mean-reverts. The good news is that global GDP growth is quite high: about 4% per year and accelerating (faster than exponential, for now). Obviously, there are severe sustainability concerns (such as the need to move away from…
> We did a bad job of distributing the wealth generated by that.
I'm not sure what you mean here. Do you mean that those that profited did not reinvest in stocks that may have helped companies grow and provide jobs? Or, that the government did not tax enough to pay its own staff and overhead and then redistribute via programs that do not necessarily target the areas that really need it? Or that they should have given that money to churches and other charities to distribute?
The reason I ask is that there are few pure redistribution models. The closest are some churches and charities, but they typically still have some overhead deducted. The next best can be stock investment, as, depending on the companies, that money is in large part repaid in the form of raises or new jobs. The least efficient is ofter government, because accountability is limited to the % wasted in the process of providing services, unlike capitalism where competition provides accountability; if you do poorly, you don't survive, unless a government bails you out.
> What happened to agricultural commodities in the 1920s is happening to nearly all human labor now. And that's pretty terrifying.
Could you expand on that and provide some references?