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Facebook Ads don't suck

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Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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Ads may be not suck, but fake clicks and overcharging for them seems like a common theme lately.

I'm quite surprised to have this pointed out as a problem: it never came in my mind to go for CPC on Facebook ads (and pay per Fake Clicks) this is not AdWords :)

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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post #7

I don't think it's about Facebook Ads sucking or not sucking. That's the narrative but the underlying issue is people feel that Facebook Ads are a rip off. I wonder how much of Facebook's ad revenue (and Google's for that Matter) consists of less savvy marketing efforts that don't understand or even care about the metrics which matter. The long tail? I don't believe the argument in favor of Facebook Ads can be that y…

Agreed but doesn't this apply to every Advertising platform? Are you going to get much better results if you spend $50 with no expertise on Google AdWords or display advertising ?

Would be really interesting to know how much the long tail account for :) But guess we'll never know!

For sure both Facebook and Google should do a better job training users with 0 expertise to better use their platform. I don't think in the long term they have much space to grow more in the enterprise, SMBs, the long tail are the segment where the future growth is ... and if they loose them after the first $50 it will be tough!

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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If you are advertising FB ad services, your conversion would obviously be higher in FB. The fact that it is only 63% better that Google Ads seems poor. My experience with FB is that the conversion rate is essentially zero and limited by your ability to donate to FB.

This is partially true ... but still promoting a b2b service on FB is always tough ... I see many of our customers with b2c products getting crazy conversion rates and spending more and more.

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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This guy's company helps people tweak their facebook advertising is rallying to promote facebook ad effectivenes. Not exactly an impartial voice.

And yeah, why not hop on the thread and get some SEO links of your own.

This guy is no better than the people he is slandering.

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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This guy's company helps people tweak their facebook advertising is rallying to promote facebook ad effectivenes. Not exactly an impartial voice. And yeah, why not hop on the thread and get some SEO links of your own. This guy is no better than the people he is slandering.

Never claimed to be better :)

But if you like to bash something based on data, at least let's do it with some reasonable data set

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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This guy's company helps people tweak their facebook advertising is rallying to promote facebook ad effectivenes. Not exactly an impartial voice. And yeah, why not hop on the thread and get some SEO links of your own. This guy is no better than the people he is slandering.

Never claimed to be better :) But if you like to bash something based on data, at least let's do it with some reasonable data set

Fine, but don't complain about people getting SEO marks when you are doing the same.

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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Kind of reminds me of: Customer: "But using it, I'm loosing money on every purchase." Vendor: "Don't worry, buy more, you'll make it up on volume."

Sorry that what the post remember you of. Was not the intention.

I'm the first to say that Facebook Ads don't work for everyone. And in advertising you should immediately stop spending on anything that don't have a positive ROI.

Still before stopping you should learn a bit how to use the platform and give it a fair try.

Then if it does not work ... stop it immediately and move on testing another channel :)

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Never claimed to be better :) But if you like to bash something based on data, at least let's do it with some reasonable data set

Fine, but don't complain about people getting SEO marks when you are doing the same.

I don't, I've written in the post I envy them for the great outcome they had out of $50 spent in Fb Ads ... that's what marketing is all about, getting the most out of your time/money :)

Re: Facebook Ads don't suck

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I think you make a good point about ignoring the visits because at the end of the day it all comes down to the effective CPA (cost per action) or conversion rate. Much of the misconception and disappointment in Facebook ads come from folks who don't have a nuanced view of the differences in marketing channel effectiveness. It doesn't really matter what you pay as long it works out to the same ROI - better channels can charge more per visit, worse channels charge less. The only downside to having lower quality channels is that they blend down your overall metrics so you have to segment your reporting appropriately.

In the last Facebook bashing post, the author compared the CPC on Facebook to the cost on AdWords which is a terrible comparison because the intent of a directed search on a search engine is so much more legitimate than just being somewhat interested in something on Facebook.

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