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Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

Why do you think people need a ton of shell extensions? What is missing from base?

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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I still don't understand why they insist on removing window-based task management when they continue to use window-based applications and workflows, so I will continue to complain about this

I'm confused, what's window based task management?

Window-based task management is "Windows", App-based task management is "Metro".

We spent the last 25 years of computer history teaching both the users and the computers how to multitask, only for the most recent user designers to try their damnedest to take it away from us.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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I still don't understand why they insist on removing window-based task management when they continue to use window-based applications and workflows, so I will continue to complain about this

I'm confused, what's window based task management?

He means stuff like minimize and maximize.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

Why do you think people need a ton of shell extensions? What is missing from base?

I've got about ten extensions running, most of them I feel makes sense aren't in the base.

The one exception is one modifying alt-tab behavior so it doesn't group programs on different workspaces together. Honestly, that's the one behavior I cannot understand exists in the first place, makes navigating by keyboard nigh impossible.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

It's productive to me. I've tried Unity some times already and can't get used to it and at the moment I'm on Gnome Classic because of an issue when upgrading and I'm missing Gnome 3, so maybe each person has their preferences?

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Another happy Arch user here. I hope people stop harping on the GNOME team, at this point it should be clear to some end users that the gnome-shell interface has come together. 3.8 and 3.10 are beautiful once you install extensions the act of which could not be easier and browsing new extensions is kind of fun. The dev team has had terrible communication problems and I get pissed off when they remove stuff like transparency in gnome-terminal, but extensions often replace missing features (compiz wobble for example). Over time my Arch linux installs have become something I can show my friends and be proud of, this is in no small part thanks to Gnome developers. I wish more distros were able to experience bleeding edge gnome-shell and hopefully as time goes on they will. Also, when Debian stable users get moved to 3.8 and their transparent shell goes away hopefully someone like me or the above poster will be there to say, "grab the xcfe4-terminal and trust the developers decision to deprecate what they claim was unmaintainable code."

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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Looks great. I've been extremely happy with Gnome UI after switching from OSX. It's fun being able to play with a desktop that is constantly improving on a rolling-release platforms like Arch Linux, where new updates stream in constantly. Instead of having to wait a year or more for big waterfall releases like OSX (Mavericks was also pretty disappointing). My only complaint is how every gnome upgrade the majority of…

Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself. The fact that they break (and some are let to rotten) after every major release is just to beat a dead body. Just a few weeks ago I tried Gnome 3 again (again!) and it still sucks as a productivity environment. I have better things to do. But as a geek, I'll be checking Gnome 3 again maybe in a year or more. No h…

> Just the fact that people need a ton of shell extensions to make it barely usable is a problem in itself

Other than 'native window placement' I find that pretty much every extension I have installed is a customisation where I want something to work in a particular way. It's not that Gnome is unusable by default, it's just more the minimal set of features that everyone uses.

For example, including a time tracker on the top bar by default would be wasteful, as would a timer. I want both of these though, so I go to a website and click a button and they work.

However, the lack of proper sandboxing / permissions breakthrough for the extensions is a real problem I don't believe has been solved yet.

Re: Gnome 3.12 Released

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So it is pronounced "ga-nome" and not "nome"? Interesting. It looks good too, I like the way modals open from a thin line to its full size.

Yep, just like GNU: https://www.gnu.org/pronunciation/pronunciation.html

That was good info, thanks for sharing.
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