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Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

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Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

#12
Neither idea nor netbeans seem to have killer feature that would motivating me to move. I know eclipse too well, I am used some its plugins and I can write my own plugins and use some of those.

Netbeans was too slow last time I tried and Eclipse is not unstable for me.

If I would work with android, I would switch to IntelliJ. I heard that one is better and Android plugin for Eclipse is horrible.

Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

#13

Eclipse works fine on my Acer Aspire Netbook. I agree it could be better but it's essentially a very capable and adaptable piece of software that's available for free.

IntelliJ is a significantly lesser resource hog. I need 3 gigs with eclipse but only 1 with intellij in ram, and cpu utilization is way better in IntelliJ.

There is something weird with Eclipse on your setup. I just checked mine and it takes 0.5. I normally keep three eclipse instances open (I switch projects and do not care about closing them) and they do not take much memory.

Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

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In a word, Android. Google pretty much requires one to use Eclipse in order to develop Android software. Obviously one can struggle to get around this assumption, but the adjustments required take more effort than using Eclipse, granted its many limitations.

Google has switched to Idea with Android Studio: http://developer.android.com/sdk/installing/studio.html

"Obviously one can struggle to get around this assumption"

Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

IntelliJ is a significantly lesser resource hog. I need 3 gigs with eclipse but only 1 with intellij in ram, and cpu utilization is way better in IntelliJ.

There is something weird with Eclipse on your setup. I just checked mine and it takes 0.5. I normally keep three eclipse instances open (I switch projects and do not care about closing them) and they do not take much memory.

Definitely something strange there. I'm using IBM RAD (Proprietary Eclipse with tons of custom plugins) at work and it's about 650-ish MB.

Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

#18
Because it "just works" and no other platform has yet convinced me that it is sufficiently better to justify the investment of time and energy which would be required to switch.

Take Netbeans - I've tried it, and it's nice enough. But it never wowed me as being so much better that I could justify throwing away all the accumulated knowledge and experience of dealing with Eclipse that I've built up over the years.

IntelliJ? For years was purely a closed-source, proprietary program which completely ruled it out from the get-to. Now, they have some kinda open-source'ish "community edition" or something, but I still think of their outfit as being largely a vendor of proprietary crap, which diminishes my interest in investing time there.

And outside of Eclipse, Netbeans, and IntelliJ, what is there in the Java world?

Sure, Eclipse has its flaws, and performance has always been one, but, for my purposes anyway, it remains "good enough".

Re: Why does anyone still use Eclipse?

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In a word, Android. Google pretty much requires one to use Eclipse in order to develop Android software. Obviously one can struggle to get around this assumption, but the adjustments required take more effort than using Eclipse, granted its many limitations.

I use a text editor.
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