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Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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This is more like a facial composite[1] than a mug shot[2]. A mug shot is a photo of an identified person. A facial composite is a synthetic graphic of an unidentified person. The distinction is important because a facial composite is an investigative tool use to identify a suspect, and a mug shot is not. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facial_composite [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mug_shot

It says right there that the purpose of a mug shot is also to identify a suspect. Even when the police gets a hold of someone and can take a photo there is no reason to think that identification is no longer necessary. Identification is probably what most criminal cases are about and being able to get to know someone’s name and to make a photo of them is not the actual relevant part of the identification for solving a crime.

Conceptually I would agree that this is more similar to facial composites (it’s a recreation of the suspect’s face not directly via a photograph but via some other means, either memory or, in this case, DNA) but comparing it to mug shots is not absurd or even weird. There is even a good argument one could make that this is conceptually more similar to mug shots than facial composites: both photos and DNA don’t rely on someone else via memory but directly on the suspect.

Since mug shots are well known making the comparison for the sake of a headline makes perfect sense. The term facial composite is much less well known. The conceptual similarity is there either way.

I think the comparison very clearly communicates why this new way of creating mug shots is very useful and as such there is nothing wrong with it.

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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It would be helpful to see more validation examples like the photograph of the former New Scientist reporter shown with the article. I wonder how we would judge the resemblance if the photographs hadn't shown the additional gray outline (complete with earring in the same design!) with the computer-generated images. I know plenty of examples of people from the same family lineage (siblings or first cousins) who grew u…

Check out https://www.facebase.org/

Facial prediction is still in its infancy but is an exciting area of research.

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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Similar: Heather Dewey-Hagborg's project http://deweyhagborg.com/strangervisions/

In Stranger Visions artist Heather Dewey-Hagborg creates portrait sculptures from analyses of genetic material collected in public places. Working with the traces strangers unwittingly leave behind, Dewey-Hagborg calls attention to the impulse toward genetic determinism and the potential for a culture of genetic surveillance.

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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Similar: Heather Dewey-Hagborg's project http://deweyhagborg.com/strangervisions/ In Stranger Visions artist Heather Dewey-Hagborg creates portrait sculptures from analyses of genetic material collected in public places. Working with the traces strangers unwittingly leave behind, Dewey-Hagborg calls attention to the impulse toward genetic determinism and the potential for a culture of genetic surveillance.

What does "the impulse towards genetic determinism" mean here? Comparisons of identical twins raised apart show that physical appearance is highly heritable, so it would seem that "the impulse towards genetic determinism" is in this case correct.

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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It would be helpful to see more validation examples like the photograph of the former New Scientist reporter shown with the article. I wonder how we would judge the resemblance if the photographs hadn't shown the additional gray outline (complete with earring in the same design!) with the computer-generated images. I know plenty of examples of people from the same family lineage (siblings or first cousins) who grew u…

I agree that diet and other environmental factors definitely contribute to appearance. For example, even though many Americans are largely European stock, there are certain developmental tendencies in some areas that I feel like it's possible to, with a better than chance guess and based on a little observation, tell if somebody is American or European - it can be something in the food, or differences in popular sports, or social body language, but all leading to developmental differences.

Of course I'm generalizing a bit, but I'm almost as good as my native South Korean wife at guessing where a person from East Asia is from. It's a combination of factors, height, facial features, but often as not it's fashion (which includes hair, eyebrows, facial hair, glasses style) etc.

An interesting test is found here http://alllooksame.com/

I can guess it pretty above average.

But it's a pretty big jump from guessing what stock a person is from to predicting what they look like based on their stock.

The problem with the examples in the article of course is that the example really looks very little like the actual woman. In fact, it's a pretty terrible likeness, especially in the eyes. About the only part that's debatable is the nose. I wouldn't rely on it for a police sketch.

Another challenge will be in populations with large groups of "mixed" children. Americans are a reasonable example, even though we're largely Europeans at this point in history, that's changing quickly, and even in the Caucasian population, there are very few who don't have ancestors from all over the place. What about my children? Will they have red hair or dark hair, epicanthic folds or not? Will they be barrel chested like my father's side, or have a physique more like my wife's? Even dominant genes can be suppressed in the right hormonal and developmental environment.

This sounds very sci-fi, but it's as long away off as those novelty "what will your children look like" facial morphers that were so popular in the 90s.

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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Note that the research paper[1] includes a link to the image-generating software[2] they've written.

Quite interesting to play with to get an interactive feel for how the various parameters of their model affect the facial appearance. You really need to read the paper to figure out what's going on though.

[1] http://www.plosgenetics.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal...

[2] https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/12163246/PC2014/DNA2FACE...

Re: Genetic mugshot recreates faces from nothing but DNA

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It would be helpful to see more validation examples like the photograph of the former New Scientist reporter shown with the article. I wonder how we would judge the resemblance if the photographs hadn't shown the additional gray outline (complete with earring in the same design!) with the computer-generated images. I know plenty of examples of people from the same family lineage (siblings or first cousins) who grew u…

Physique can obviously vary widely, and differences in nutrition at key stages of development can have noticeable effects on facial bone structure and dentition, but I suspect the basics of facial geometry won't drift too far in most cases. It would be very interesting to take the generated output from this and see how it performs against some commercial facial recognition algorithms that has been trained on a large dataset, eg Facebook's.
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