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>It’s developed and supported exclusively by one huge web company, and they may decide to deprecate and replace it in a few years as their technical needs change or its core engineers move on to new projects. Thats an interesting sentiment. The exact same could be said for languages like Go (Google), C# (Microsoft), Rust (Mozilla) and platforms like NodeJS (Joyent). In any case it doesn't seem like too much of a worr…
Zend the organisation, is probably what Marco meant when referring to poor stewardship, instead of the OS project Zend Framework. I like Hack because it explicitly doesn't support[0] a bunch of cruft from PHP. It feels a lot to me like the BC-breaking PHP.next people want - easy to switch to for modern applications, but not hindered by supporting PHP 4 code. Bit early to start pointing fingers at it's future though.…
> Writing list(, $b) = array(3,4) is not allowed. Instead use $_, i.e.: list($_, $b) = array(3, 4). Not that I think the former is good practice at all, but isn't the latter a kind of weird use of what is a valid variable name?
I'm not much of a PHP coder, so I tend to watch these flamewars from a distance on the sidelines. However, I've never really understood why people criticize or mock Facebook for pouring so many resources into PHP. For building cross-compilers, toolchains, and syntactic extensions on top of a language that is seen as a fundamentally weak foundation. I mean, I DO understand all of those criticisms. I just don't get how…
> PHP isn’t a great language, but it is a good language [...] it’s just as possible to write good, well-structured code in PHP as in most other languages That isn't what "good language" means.
I'm not much of a PHP coder, so I tend to watch these flamewars from a distance on the sidelines. However, I've never really understood why people criticize or mock Facebook for pouring so many resources into PHP. For building cross-compilers, toolchains, and syntactic extensions on top of a language that is seen as a fundamentally weak foundation. I mean, I DO understand all of those criticisms. I just don't get how…
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so new language built by mega corp on top of debated language hasn't garnered enough trust and buy-in to facilitate mainstream use? Seems fair - I do like the static typing of hack though. Weak typing has its place but it can become a real PITA (looking at you javascript).
I'm not much of a PHP coder, so I tend to watch these flamewars from a distance on the sidelines. However, I've never really understood why people criticize or mock Facebook for pouring so many resources into PHP. For building cross-compilers, toolchains, and syntactic extensions on top of a language that is seen as a fundamentally weak foundation. I mean, I DO understand all of those criticisms. I just don't get how…
No, they're different. Firstly:
- js is the only choice in browsers. for server stuff, you have an almost infinite choice.
- javascript has warts, sure. but if you stick to "the good parts", then it is possible to use in a relatively sane manner. the compile-to-js languages are trying to make it easier to use the good parts, and harder to use the bad ones.
- node is different, in that bizarre though js may be, if you have to use it in the browser, there is a kind of logic to using it on the server as well.
I'm not much of a PHP coder, so I tend to watch these flamewars from a distance on the sidelines. However, I've never really understood why people criticize or mock Facebook for pouring so many resources into PHP. For building cross-compilers, toolchains, and syntactic extensions on top of a language that is seen as a fundamentally weak foundation. I mean, I DO understand all of those criticisms. I just don't get how…
I think you're just trolling. But on the off-chance that you may actually be interested in discussion from someone who does a lot of JS, has done a lot of PHP: No, they're different. Firstly: - js is the only choice in browsers. for server stuff, you have an almost infinite choice. - javascript has warts, sure. but if you stick to "the good parts", then it is possible to use in a relatively sane manner. the compile-t…
Is there any language for which this is not true?