Live data from Hacker News

Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

teslamotors.com

11–20 of 410 posts

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#11
post #2

I'm not opposed to what Musk is trying to do but how or why are auto dealers a monopoly? Those direct sales laws were originally created to preserve small business.

This Planet Money episode[1] gives a interesting of the history of autodealers, with some additional info regarding the latest twists that had come up due the fiscal crisis too.

[1] http://www.npr.org/blogs/money/2013/02/12/171814201/episode-...

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#12
post #2

I'm not opposed to what Musk is trying to do but how or why are auto dealers a monopoly? Those direct sales laws were originally created to preserve small business.

The monopoly is that only dealers are allowed to sell cars. Whatever the original intent, they seem not only unnecessary but quite anti-American (most definitions) now.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#13
post #2

I'm not opposed to what Musk is trying to do but how or why are auto dealers a monopoly? Those direct sales laws were originally created to preserve small business.

My first reaction upon reading your comment was that there was no way you read the article before commenting. Basically, what you say is directly and effectively addressed in the article. I was going to give you the benefit of the doubt though until I saw that the article was posted 23 minutes ago. Your comment was posted 21 minutes ago.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#14
post #7

It blows my mind that in a country that preaches a free-market economy, the government is preventing a company from selling a superior product. I'm pretty sure people will still buy the car if they want to, and in time, those car companies will go under anyway, but why slow down progress?

Because existing businesses are afraid of change and politicians are afraid of possibly eliminating jobs. People are afraid of change because it means that they will have to adapt.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#15

Very saddened by the blatant corruption in our government. Where do I vote for a new government based on ethics and accountability (apart from New Zealand).

Government does not respond to a passive arrangement where you "vote for ethics" every so often. You have to participate more actively. This involves work.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#16
> The rationale given for the regulation change that requires auto companies to sell through dealers is that it ensures “consumer protection”. If you believe this, Gov. Christie has a bridge closure he wants to sell you!

One of the things I love about Elon Musk, besides the fact that he has the balls to tackle hard, capital-intensive problems, is that he has a pragmatic, realist approach. Getting SpaceX NASA contracts was not something everyone would have done, not when many were marching to the drumbeat of "private space exploration is superior to public." And apparently, he's not being above throwing a recent scandal in Chris Christie's face.

The whole article is a great play though. Note that he starts by explaining the rationale for the existing laws, validating their original purpose, then showing why that rationale doesn't apply to Tesla. This is wonderful persuasive writing.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#18
post #7

It blows my mind that in a country that preaches a free-market economy, the government is preventing a company from selling a superior product. I'm pretty sure people will still buy the car if they want to, and in time, those car companies will go under anyway, but why slow down progress?

"If you build a better mousetrap, the world will beat a path to your door, unless its run by mice." --me

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#19
post #7

It blows my mind that in a country that preaches a free-market economy, the government is preventing a company from selling a superior product. I'm pretty sure people will still buy the car if they want to, and in time, those car companies will go under anyway, but why slow down progress?

Remember that the US is not pro-business, it's corporatist. It's a government that is able to be easily captured by incumbent, monied interests. Starting businesses and operating them on a small level is much easier in other developed nations.

Re: Elon Musk: To the People of New Jersey

#20
post #2

I'm not opposed to what Musk is trying to do but how or why are auto dealers a monopoly? Those direct sales laws were originally created to preserve small business.

I thought he did a good job explaining why those laws were put in place and why they're not needed to be applied here. Even if you don't agree it's a monopoly, clearly in this case the law is not being applied as it should be.

I was impressed by the fact that he bothered to offer an explanation of why the law was introduced and what purpose it served; it makes for a more compelling argument than some cookie-cutter rant about Big Evil Corporations wrapping their rent-seeking tentacles around the government.
Post reply on HN