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Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#11

Post by rdtsc »

mapleoin wrote: post #10
shard wrote: post #2

Where are the details!?! I want to know why he went AWOL for so long, and what kind of agreements were reached regarding the centos funds and domain. =P

this isn't a soap opera. It's their business, even if they decided to make part of the thing public.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL.

I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#12

Post by whirlycott1 »

dpcan wrote: post #3

I already panicked and started the move of one of our servers over to Ubuntu Hardy. I'm worried for CentOS, continuing this saga with an open letter and a picture of a possibly stubborn leader is going to hurt. I think it's time to go tight lipped, have a conference call, hash it out and make things right. Then make an announcement about all the GREAT things that came out of the call and how CentOS is on the verge of…

You panicked and started a migration because you didn't have the patience to wait a few days to see what happens?

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#13

Post by Elepsis »

rdtsc wrote: post #11
mapleoin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this isn't a soap opera. It's their business, even if they decided to make part of the thing public.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

If you don't mind sharing, what did you switch to?

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#14

Post by jonursenbach »

dpcan wrote: post #3

I already panicked and started the move of one of our servers over to Ubuntu Hardy. I'm worried for CentOS, continuing this saga with an open letter and a picture of a possibly stubborn leader is going to hurt. I think it's time to go tight lipped, have a conference call, hash it out and make things right. Then make an announcement about all the GREAT things that came out of the call and how CentOS is on the verge of…

Really? You really migrated servers over to another distro within a few days of hearing the the project manager had gone AWOL?

You do realise that you can stick with the same distro forever and just patch all of your packages manually, don't you?

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#15

Post by rdtsc »

Elepsis wrote: post #13
rdtsc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

If you don't mind sharing, what did you switch to?

Scientific Linux (http://www.scientificlinux.org/), it's maintained by Fermilab and CERN.

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#16

Post by dpcan »

jonursenbach wrote: post #14
dpcan wrote: post #3

I already panicked and started the move of one of our servers over to Ubuntu Hardy. I'm worried for CentOS, continuing this saga with an open letter and a picture of a possibly stubborn leader is going to hurt. I think it's time to go tight lipped, have a conference call, hash it out and make things right. Then make an announcement about all the GREAT things that came out of the call and how CentOS is on the verge of…

Really? You really migrated servers over to another distro within a few days of hearing the the project manager had gone AWOL? You do realise that you can stick with the same distro forever and just patch all of your packages manually, don't you?

A few hours actually. It was just 1 server. I'm sorry if it looked like I said more. I do patch manually already.

If there are two ships going out to sea, and the ship where I've already loaded my luggage all of a sudden has crew members running around screaming "where's the captain, where's the captain, he's been gone for months." You know.... I'm just going to take my bags and put them on the other ship and not worry about it anymore. I don't need any more stress in my life, there's already PLENTY of that.

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#17

Post by ErrantX »

rdtsc wrote: post #11
mapleoin wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this isn't a soap opera. It's their business, even if they decided to make part of the thing public.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS.

I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#18

Post by rdtsc »

ErrantX wrote: post #17
rdtsc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS. I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)

I hear you. I would rather choose Ubuntu, but we have to be compatible with RHEL since we have to ship our product on it. We need all the dev boxes running something binary and library-level compatible with it, and then it is easier to have all our servers on same architecture as well.

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#19

Post by mapleoin »

ErrantX wrote: post #17
rdtsc wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And my business is my business. We used to use CentOS and now we switched to another open build of RHEL. I have nothing against them, they all seem to be great guys, I would have a beer with them. But the image of the project as a whole has suffered, and because of a lack of perceived stability and reliability we decided to switch.

that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS. I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)

Red Hat is actually downstream from Fedora. Red Hat takes a Fedora release once every two years and makes it into a RHEL.

Re: CentOS Administrator Reappears

#20

Post by ErrantX »

mapleoin wrote: post #19
ErrantX wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

that's the risk you take for using a community (ish) / volunteer developed OS. I always recommend Fedora - because they have Red Hat upstream so it's enterprisey but still the same sort of community :)

Red Hat is actually downstream from Fedora. Red Hat takes a Fedora release once every two years and makes it into a RHEL.

yeh sorry I realised this after posting. thanks for the correction (I think my point still stands, I dont know).
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