Cars? People still buy those things? I wonder how much non-drivers' taxpayer money goes to subsidizing others' choices of transportation like this...
Wouldn't tax dollars spent on sidewalks and mass transit be subsidizing others choice of transportation also?
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#12Earlier quoted context omitted.
Wouldn't tax dollars spent on sidewalks and mass transit be subsidizing others choice of transportation also?
$4500 pumped into buying you a car is good for you, and slightly good for the environment; but investing $4500 into public transportation benefits hundreds of people, and is even better for the environment. Since we don't have much money, it's best to use it in a way that will have the most benefit.
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#13I can't imagine it does any good for the environment, at least not until >five years from now. Producing a car isn't exactly easy on the environment, and requiring people to buy new cars isn't going to help.
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#15Earlier quoted context omitted.
Easy to say that if you live in a densely populated city with good public transit. Not everyone has the luxury of living close to public transportation or within walking distance of all necessary services they need.
It is not a luxury, it is a conscious decision that many people make sacrifices to obtain.
I appreciate this perspective, though. I've ridden my bike to work for the last eight years. My family lives in the city (I live not far from where I grew up) and we use public transportation. And I agree with the Economist--this program is really about getting people to buy new cars.
Cars? People still buy those things?
Yes. Why not? They're a tool, just like everything else. My family really enjoys traveling, so we (four of us) own one car. More often than not, it's parked in front of our house. We walk, bike, and bus ourselves around when we can. But it's also nice to be able to leave the city on the weekend and go camping and climbing. Or visit family. Acting as if you are on a higher moral plain because you can't comprehend why people still buy cars doesn't do much to advance the conversation and convince people to rethink some of their lifestyle choices.
That said, as I mentioned, I think this subsidy is a terrible idea.
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#16Can I have a $4500 voucher for a new bicycle? It uses no fossil fuel at all. (I estimate that an 18-pound bike will cause me to consume one less banana per week, compared to my current 21-pound bike. This will save hundreds of bananas per decade.)
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#17I can't imagine it does any good for the environment, at least not until >five years from now. Producing a car isn't exactly easy on the environment, and requiring people to buy new cars isn't going to help.
Producing _anything_ isn't easy on the environment.
Bonus points if the carpenter eats a low animal-protein diet.
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#18Can I have a $4500 voucher for a new bicycle? It uses no fossil fuel at all. (I estimate that an 18-pound bike will cause me to consume one less banana per week, compared to my current 21-pound bike. This will save hundreds of bananas per decade.)
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#19Cars? People still buy those things? I wonder how much non-drivers' taxpayer money goes to subsidizing others' choices of transportation like this...
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#20Can I have a $4500 voucher for a new bicycle? It uses no fossil fuel at all. (I estimate that an 18-pound bike will cause me to consume one less banana per week, compared to my current 21-pound bike. This will save hundreds of bananas per decade.)
I wasn't aware that banana consumption was a problem or that America depends on a healthy bike industry to thrive. News to me!