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Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

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Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

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Post by specialp »

camus2 wrote: post #2

> Still, I imagine the grand plan is to make Yahoo “cool enough” that people will actually want to use a Yahoo ID consistently. We’ll see how that one goes. For what? as a consumer,what service Yahoo does offer that would make me want to get a yahoo id? As a developper ,Yahoo has a few interesting services but that's it. Yahoo's shopping spree is over but it did not make it more relevant.

Yahoo runs many services that have traffic that most start-ups here would die for. Number one finance site,number one news site, huge fantasy sports, Flickr, Delicious, significant search traffic. People on HN tend to dismiss them but we are indeed talking one of the most trafficked websites on Earth. I would say there is more value having a Yahoo ID than most other sites due to how much they offer.

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

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Post by nitrogen »

wise_young_man wrote: post #9
null_ptr wrote: post #6

Good! The less that people see Google and Facebook accounts as "Global Internet Identity Accounts" , the better.

I disagree. The more people use Social login and the less people use their one shared password on all sites which tends to be "password1", the better.

The user's single identity should be owned by the user and managed securely by the browser, not by Facebook or Google.

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#13

Post by joecomotion »

specialp wrote: post #11
camus2 wrote: post #2

> Still, I imagine the grand plan is to make Yahoo “cool enough” that people will actually want to use a Yahoo ID consistently. We’ll see how that one goes. For what? as a consumer,what service Yahoo does offer that would make me want to get a yahoo id? As a developper ,Yahoo has a few interesting services but that's it. Yahoo's shopping spree is over but it did not make it more relevant.

Yahoo runs many services that have traffic that most start-ups here would die for. Number one finance site,number one news site, huge fantasy sports, Flickr, Delicious, significant search traffic. People on HN tend to dismiss them but we are indeed talking one of the most trafficked websites on Earth. I would say there is more value having a Yahoo ID than most other sites due to how much they offer.

Delicious left Big Purple long ago.

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#14

Post by kirillzubovsky »

It's alright, Yahoo audience probably haven't heard of Facebook yet anyway.

In all seriousness though, this is a good thing. FB login has become so prevalent, that not having it hurts more than it helps. At the same time, they used to change APIs so often, that keeping it working was a royal pain.

Although it's much easier to implement these days, especially with services like http://hull.io, it's yet another part of one's site/app to worry about.

Good for Yahoo!

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#15

Post by lnanek2 »

I can't remember my Yahoo login, I may have had one a decade ago. I don't really buy their excuse that removing social login helps in any way. As a developer, with social login, I have a username to link everything to just as much as normal server login. You can still have user records in your DB keyed on that, a settings page on your site that stores settings against that user, whatever you need. So how does removing social login improve personalization? I don't think it does. Just sounds like an excuse.

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#16

Post by kevincrane »

specialp wrote: post #11
camus2 wrote: post #2

> Still, I imagine the grand plan is to make Yahoo “cool enough” that people will actually want to use a Yahoo ID consistently. We’ll see how that one goes. For what? as a consumer,what service Yahoo does offer that would make me want to get a yahoo id? As a developper ,Yahoo has a few interesting services but that's it. Yahoo's shopping spree is over but it did not make it more relevant.

Yahoo runs many services that have traffic that most start-ups here would die for. Number one finance site,number one news site, huge fantasy sports, Flickr, Delicious, significant search traffic. People on HN tend to dismiss them but we are indeed talking one of the most trafficked websites on Earth. I would say there is more value having a Yahoo ID than most other sites due to how much they offer.

It's not popular but I think Yahoo Mail is way better than a lot of people give it credit for as well.

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#17

Post by chris_wot »

camus2 wrote: post #2

> Still, I imagine the grand plan is to make Yahoo “cool enough” that people will actually want to use a Yahoo ID consistently. We’ll see how that one goes. For what? as a consumer,what service Yahoo does offer that would make me want to get a yahoo id? As a developper ,Yahoo has a few interesting services but that's it. Yahoo's shopping spree is over but it did not make it more relevant.

The same services that you would use had you logged in with Facebook or Google?

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

#18

Post by mydogmuppet »

I have never been able to sigh into Flickr with anything other than by Facebook ID. All attempts by me/Yahoo to create an Yahoo ID that wasn't locked in some self defeating loop failed.

I've never been a fan of Yahoo or for that matter Hotmail; they force an ID on you which is then hijacked by their email servers to spam all your contacts...again...and again.

Why can't Yahoo just die gracefully ? Why do they have to inflict their death throes on Flickr Users ?

Re: Yahoo to End Facebook, Google Sign-In on Its Web Properties

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Post by ampersandy »

blueskin_ wrote: post #19

I wonder how many of the 10 remaining Yahoo users will be inconvenienced by this. Seriously though, this is a good thing - third party sign in is a horrible idea and should die.

Why is it a horrible idea? I worked on the Site Integrity team at Facebook and I can assure you that protecting people's accounts from attackers is a fundamentally hard problem that very few companies are actually equipped to handle.
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