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How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

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Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#11
I had a site that was hacked. Over 250k links were built. They were pointing to a new page on the site. We found out about the hack via Google Webmaster Tools. They sent a notice it was a malware issue.

We cleaned up the hack and 404 the page. To this day, there are still over 100k links that Google says is out there.

The nice part is, there is no indication of any negative action taken by Google.

Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#13
post #2

You didn't do your research. Your domain had a spam history. Also, a simple backlink analysis from any SEO would have turned up these issues and then you could have promptly disavowed them and be done with it. It's not Google's fault that you didn't dot you i's and cross your t's as a webmaster.

It is Google's fault that their pagerank algorithm isn't sophisticated enough to handle understanding that internet domain ownership isn't static, and for not understanding that spam sites pointing to 404s on another site are a prime indication that a change has happened.

> It is Google's fault that their pagerank algorithm isn't sophisticated enough to handle understanding that internet domain ownership isn't static

Nothing about their algorithm cares about domain ownership -- and why should it? Ownership can be gamed. If your domain has a bad reputation other reputation based services like SiteAdvisor are going to affect your domain as well.

Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#14
This is what happens when Google actively penalizes sites for something that is totally out of their control (links pointing to their site).

Granted, a large chunk of spammers know exactly what they are doing when they blast 1000s of links into a site, but what about the average webmaster? Or the small business owner who knows nothing about SEO and relies on a cheap "SEO firm"? Or somebody who isn't an SEO expert buying a new domain name?

I've worked on a number of link cleanups in the past and you are basically flipping a coin with Google even if you get all of the links removed. A lot of their search quality team is outsourced nowadays [1] and they provide very limited communication to webmasters who have been penalized outside of "You have violated Google's Webmaster Guidelines." Those who are very much in the public eye like RapGenius or JCPenney can easily recover through PR efforts (RG is ranking highly again for all [justin beiber lyrics] keywords [2]), but there are tons of people out there that are being run out of business by Google and have no idea what is even happening because they don't know SEO.

Low quality links used to only be discounted but since the first Penguin update they can now actively hurt a website. People who follow marketing/SEO closely are aware of all of this, but I don't think your average website owner has any idea.

1: https://twitter.com/screamingfrog/status/420165509296844800 2: http://www.seobook.com/spam-big-or-die

Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#15
At the same time the real concern for legitimate businesses is the potential for adversaries to use massive spam backlinking to destroy your online presence. Are Google algo's smart enough to not ding you for what you did not do? Probably not. It would almost be trivially easy to destroy a domain this way.

Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#17
It looks as though there are a lot links pointing to the homepage from blogrolls which might be causing problems too - especially as he admitted he was selling links from his sidebar?

And you can see the 50% drop in traffic here http://feinternational.com/website-penalty-indicator/?url=sp...

Re: How Google Nuked Sports Media Watch For A Crime It Did Not Commit

#20
post #8

One thing I don't see anyone mentioning is why Google ignores the 404 and still applies the penalty. PageRank is fully automated, and probably probes pages very frequently. If you let a 404 remove a penalty, people could probably occasionally 404 Google's crawler and see if it helps their rank to automatically remove poorly performing backlinks.

Google probably sees a 404 penalty remover as technically onerous. It also wouldn't prevent an arms race of spamming ephemeral links, where if the spammer wasn't required to switch domains all the time they'd be able to just stay 4hrs ahead of Google crawler and create a business model oriented around a 4hr link lifetime.
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