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Acid-bath stem-cell study under investigation

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Re: Acid-bath stem-cell study under investigation

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What about credible results- should things require less evidence if they support the status quo?

The status quo by definition has a lot of support in scientific literature. Sure, you could right a botched paper supporting it, but people would basically ignore it because it would be a bad paper (though a peer reviewer would likely tear it to shreds anyway).

> The status quo by definition has a lot of support in scientific literature.

Not really. Science is by its very nature subversive, and as many Nobels have been awarded for work that falsified the status quo as confirmed it.

When the Michelson-Morley experiment falsified the luminiferous ether, much of physics fell into limbo (without a credible "status quo"), until Einstein's relativity theory offered an alternative explanation for electromagnetic propagation. But Einstein's proposal was met with incredulity until very good evidence confirmed it. That's science at its best -- perpetual doubt and skepticism.

Re: Acid-bath stem-cell study under investigation

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Not a biologist or chemist (but have worked a lot of them). I was very suspicious of "acid bath" being a secret sauce. Chemists and biologists always work through PH range studies early and often. It is one of the things that is very easy to control and measure, so they all hope it will have a useful effect (and check for it).

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The status quo by definition has a lot of support in scientific literature. Sure, you could right a botched paper supporting it, but people would basically ignore it because it would be a bad paper (though a peer reviewer would likely tear it to shreds anyway).

> The status quo by definition has a lot of support in scientific literature. Not really. Science is by its very nature subversive, and as many Nobels have been awarded for work that falsified the status quo as confirmed it. When the Michelson-Morley experiment falsified the luminiferous ether, much of physics fell into limbo (without a credible "status quo"), until Einstein's relativity theory offered an alternative…

I think we're using two different definitions of "status quo". Science most definitely has a status quo - that's the established theoretical basis for various fields.

That of course can be very different to the cultural status quo.

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> The status quo by definition has a lot of support in scientific literature. Not really. Science is by its very nature subversive, and as many Nobels have been awarded for work that falsified the status quo as confirmed it. When the Michelson-Morley experiment falsified the luminiferous ether, much of physics fell into limbo (without a credible "status quo"), until Einstein's relativity theory offered an alternative…

I think we're using two different definitions of "status quo". Science most definitely has a status quo - that's the established theoretical basis for various fields. That of course can be very different to the cultural status quo.

> Science most definitely has a status quo - that's the established theoretical basis for various fields.

Yes, that's true, but to call a falsifiable theory a status quo is to imply that it represents an anchor, a stabilizing influence, rather than a tempting moving target for skeptical scientists, its true role.

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