I hope it's more like "EU" than Europe, because countries like UK seem more than happy to sell the rest of us out. In the end the solution will be to build trustless P2P networks, everywhere, but the only way US and US companies will agree to allowing something like that will be if EU pushes for localized EU networks and stuff like this to make their life too hard otherwise.
Data protection: Angela Merkel proposes Europe network
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#13What so many people fail to realize is that the NSA will try and likely succeed at penetrating these networks as well. The real difference is that they don't need FISA courts to authorize foreign intelligence operations, only domestic ones.
The NSA doesn't have a limited budget. It already has more data than it can use.
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#14What so many people fail to realize is that the NSA will try and likely succeed at penetrating these networks as well. The real difference is that they don't need FISA courts to authorize foreign intelligence operations, only domestic ones.
A more self-sufficient European network, especially one that excludes Great-Britain (sorry guys...), would raise the effort required to do surveillance. The NSA doesn't have a limited budget. It already has more data than it can use.
The UK isn't the only country that co-operates with the US authorities on this, sadly.
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#17As a side benefit China has fostered a large homegrown internet industry which many other countries lack. Services like Baidu and Sina Weibo are more than acceptable. Europe is more than capable of doing the same and hopefully with less censorship.
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#18China kicking out Google doesn't seems so crazy now. The American government is a worldwide aggressor that cannot be restrained. All defenses must be put up in an attempt to stop it. As a side benefit China has fostered a large homegrown internet industry which many other countries lack. Services like Baidu and Sina Weibo are more than acceptable. Europe is more than capable of doing the same and hopefully with less…
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#19What so many people fail to realize is that the NSA will try and likely succeed at penetrating these networks as well. The real difference is that they don't need FISA courts to authorize foreign intelligence operations, only domestic ones.
A more self-sufficient European network, especially one that excludes Great-Britain (sorry guys...), would raise the effort required to do surveillance. The NSA doesn't have a limited budget. It already has more data than it can use.
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#20The substance is more interesting than the headline: "Above all, we'll talk about European providers that offer security for our citizens, so that one shouldn't have to send emails and other information across the Atlantic" i.e. government support of alternatives to the US owned networked services that enable the data leakages, not low level infrastructure improvements. Whether or not such a thing is likely to work,…
That makes a bit more sense. At the level of infrastructure there already is a "European network", with pretty good interconnects. It's very uncommon for intra-European packets to go via the US, at least in continental Europe. There are some routes where it can happen due to peculiarities of peering agreements, but I've seen it quite rarely. On the other hand, if lots of Europeans are hosting their email in the U.S.,…