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The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Re: The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Post by spacemanmatt »

chilldream wrote: post #8
spacemanmatt wrote: post #6

Whereas Facebook is an altruistic service run by the users for the users. Oh, spare me the breathless reporting on Skynet, please.

Facebook has an opt-in mechanism called "signing up for a Facebook account." G+'s equivalent is "signing up for an unrelated service, possibly as long as a decade ago."

I declined G+ for a while, but eventually pressed a button and consented to convert my accounts. I am not aware of any automatic conversion, especially from 10-year-old accounts. I assure you, my Gmail account is older than that.

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Post by Pacabel »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #10
Pacabel wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see that suggested anywhere in the article. But maybe I just missed it. Can you please point out where that claim is made?

I was being absolutely sarcastic about Facebook being run by and for the users. G+ and Facebook are both artifacts of their respective owners' lead generation businesses.

Right. That's pretty widely understood at this point. Were you just repeating what's already known, or was there some insightful point that you were trying to make?

Re: The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Post by davidnu »

chilldream wrote: post #5
kaonashi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

G+ is what people who used to use Google services because they wanted to now have to endure for those same privileges.

Yes, exactly this. I was fine with my Google Account; now I have a Google Social Networking Boondoggle. And the rare times G+ makes a difference in my use of other services, the net effect has been worse (I'm still not over the YouTube thing)

You should be over the 'Youtube thing'. Many Google services employ commenting/voting/rating etc, handling these in different, separate siloed systems makes no sense. G+ makes a great deal of sense that its detractors are unwilling to admit.

As for the Youtube commenting system which all those who want to be derisive about G+ are quick to point to, they fail to mention how Youtube comments weren't that great to begin with and that the G+ comments they refer to are the ones rolled out immediately after the change, they omit mentioning and don't account for the numerous iterations the system received since then, and they haven't bothered to check on the comments situation since then because it would destroy their strawman arguments.

Re: The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Post by spacemanmatt »

spacemanmatt wrote: post #10
Pacabel wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see that suggested anywhere in the article. But maybe I just missed it. Can you please point out where that claim is made?

I was being absolutely sarcastic about Facebook being run by and for the users. G+ and Facebook are both artifacts of their respective owners' lead generation businesses.

If it's an insight that people have with the wrong expectations are disappointed for the right reasons, then you're welcome.

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Re: The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Post by judk »

chilldream wrote: post #8
spacemanmatt wrote: post #6

Whereas Facebook is an altruistic service run by the users for the users. Oh, spare me the breathless reporting on Skynet, please.

Facebook has an opt-in mechanism called "signing up for a Facebook account." G+'s equivalent is "signing up for an unrelated service, possibly as long as a decade ago."

How do I use Facebook Chat and Facebook Photos without a Facebook News Feed account, and without Facebook Like buttons recording every web page I visit?

Re: The Plus in Google Plus? It’s Mostly for Google

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Post by judk »

Pacabel wrote: post #13
spacemanmatt wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was being absolutely sarcastic about Facebook being run by and for the users. G+ and Facebook are both artifacts of their respective owners' lead generation businesses.

Right. That's pretty widely understood at this point. Were you just repeating what's already known, or was there some insightful point that you were trying to make?

Parent was explaining how this news story is reporting what's already known, and has no insightful point.

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Post by blueskin_ »

davidnu wrote: post #2

This is quite insulting to G+ users to be so easily dismissed and declaring the place a "ghost town". Deeming the community worthless because it's not as large as Facebook's is ridiculous. There is also no mention of G+ fulfilling the purpose of an identity layer to tie in Google's offerings under one pictured profile like every other online service launching today. This attack which lacks any actual news and new dev…

There are very few things that can be said that won't insult some group of 100 people somewhere; just that in this case they happen to be Google+'s entire userbase.

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Post by [deleted] »

davidnu wrote: post #14
chilldream wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, exactly this. I was fine with my Google Account; now I have a Google Social Networking Boondoggle. And the rare times G+ makes a difference in my use of other services, the net effect has been worse (I'm still not over the YouTube thing)

You should be over the 'Youtube thing'. Many Google services employ commenting/voting/rating etc, handling these in different, separate siloed systems makes no sense. G+ makes a great deal of sense that its detractors are unwilling to admit. As for the Youtube commenting system which all those who want to be derisive about G+ are quick to point to, they fail to mention how Youtube comments weren't that great to begin…

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