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War on Anonymous: British Spies Attacked Hackers, Snowden Docs Show

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We need a War on Politics.

Politics is not the problem, politics is essential for our lives, what's wrong is that it simply serves big capital these days, with growing disregard for civil rights.

Exactly money must be taken out of politics, i.e.:

No more lobbying (= legalized corruption).

But how are you going to do that when rich people are already in power and are using their financial dominance to protect their monopoly of power?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Politics is not the problem, politics is essential for our lives, what's wrong is that it simply serves big capital these days, with growing disregard for civil rights.

I'm sure there are ways we could update the political process with more modern ideas of logic, science, election theory, and consensus.

look up Fair Elections. It's simple and promising.

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You have to wonder, do the GCHQ agents involved really think Anonymous is worth their time? Are the people actually carrying out these attacks convinced that their efforts are better spent on that than identifying and infiltrating terrorist networks?

I get spying. I get compromising and penetrating the networks of rival countries. I even get economic espionage, in the same way that I understand why the US Marines overthrew sovereign governments in service of United Fruit.

But DDOSing Anonymous? Were they loading up LOIC and firing their lazors at freenode? That just seems fucking pathetic. It looks like a bunch of children got written a big cheque and were told to go play.

We're constantly inculcated with notions of spy agencies as supremely powerful, supremely competent cloak-and-dagger organizations that work in the shadows to guide world events. But this just makes them look like bratty kids with a rich uncle. It's pathetic.

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Why is the lady in the video on this page reporting this from Russia even though she said they got the docs from Snowden before he went to Russia? Are ALL their pundits in Russia for the Olympics?

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Snowden gave his documents to a handful of journalists (Greenwald, Poitras, Gellman, etc), who give documents to media outlets to publish. It's that simple, I think.

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You have to wonder, do the GCHQ agents involved really think Anonymous is worth their time? Are the people actually carrying out these attacks convinced that their efforts are better spent on that than identifying and infiltrating terrorist networks? I get spying. I get compromising and penetrating the networks of rival countries. I even get economic espionage, in the same way that I understand why the US Marines ove…

I know next to nothing about it, but Anonymous probably aids WikiLeaks in some way, and WikiLeaks is definitely threatening.

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You have to wonder, do the GCHQ agents involved really think Anonymous is worth their time? Are the people actually carrying out these attacks convinced that their efforts are better spent on that than identifying and infiltrating terrorist networks? I get spying. I get compromising and penetrating the networks of rival countries. I even get economic espionage, in the same way that I understand why the US Marines ove…

At the time, there appeared to be a concerted attack on the electronic infrastructure of the economy, which Anonymous was claiming responsibility for. It seems perfectly justified to me that GCHQ was attempting to disrupt those attacks and identify the perpetrators.

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You have to wonder, do the GCHQ agents involved really think Anonymous is worth their time? Are the people actually carrying out these attacks convinced that their efforts are better spent on that than identifying and infiltrating terrorist networks? I get spying. I get compromising and penetrating the networks of rival countries. I even get economic espionage, in the same way that I understand why the US Marines ove…

Anonymous DDoS'd bits of the UK govt (http://www.out-law.com/page-11476). Not critical bits but enough for them to take notice of the threat.

Much of the (UK) law enforcement response to potential civil unrest is to try to prevent escalation, this would seem to be in line with that.

Also the tactics and techniques used are frankly not something any of the other bits of UK govt outside the MOD would understand or be able to deploy.

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You have to wonder, do the GCHQ agents involved really think Anonymous is worth their time? Are the people actually carrying out these attacks convinced that their efforts are better spent on that than identifying and infiltrating terrorist networks? I get spying. I get compromising and penetrating the networks of rival countries. I even get economic espionage, in the same way that I understand why the US Marines ove…

I know next to nothing about it, but Anonymous probably aids WikiLeaks in some way, and WikiLeaks is definitely threatening.

I know next to nothing about you, but you are probably an ignorant gossipmonger.
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