oh, good grief. has this guy really been getting away with this for what, well over a decade now?
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#12The Xerox Star did that before Apple. Interestingly enough, it had hardware keys for it [0] - no mnemonics required. Raskin (Macintosh team) ended up really liking dedicated keys (cf. the Canon Cat and his book) after all. I would have agreed a few months ago; but as someone who is slowly forcing himself to become a touch typist because I was getting irritated at how much my hands moved over the keyboard when there w…
> The Xerox Star did that before Apple. .. it had hardware keys for it So Xerox did not do that what Mac did (Command-X keys). Edit: Answer to your " xerox with dedicated keys ... was the first to have to solve that problem though" in the reply to this post: Xerox was not the first to have the dedicated keys for common operations: e.g. cca 1965: http://www.computinghistory.org.uk/big/17234/IBM-1052-Printe... Whereas…
They solved the same problem (associating menu items with keyboard actions) in 2 different ways - xerox with dedicated keys, Apple with keyboard shortcuts. Xerox was the first to have to solve that problem though.
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#15> The second aspect of the original Mac that stands out today as Apple-like is putting just enough whimsy into the experience. Most famously, the smiling Mac you saw as the system booted. Had anyone prior even considered a smiling computer? Come on, man. Computing has been full of whimsy from the beginning. To imply that Apple has some kind of monopoly on cute jokes is absurd.
The typical Apple fan's deep knowledge of Apple history tends to be accompanied by a generally superficial knowledge of the rest of the industry.
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#16oh, good grief. has this guy really been getting away with this for what, well over a decade now?
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#17Why are HNers so dismissive of sharp, good writers like Gruber and very well thought out designs like the ones covered in this article?
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#18Ah. Oh. Apple. Oh. Oh. Ah. Love you, sweetheart. Forever yours, John PS. Still crazy for your elegant beige on the outside. Wow, just wow!
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#19Why are HNers so dismissive of sharp, good writers like Gruber and very well thought out designs like the ones covered in this article?
Because Gruber is a shameless Apple sycophant
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#20Why are HNers so dismissive of sharp, good writers like Gruber and very well thought out designs like the ones covered in this article?
I would not call Gruber particularly sharp or good. He's not bad by any means, but his writing is subject to a massive pro-Apple bias and his writing tends to be high on emotion and low on information.
I read Daring Fireball because it often has interesting links, but I wish I could easily filter out the non-link bits like this one, because I just don't learn anything from them, and they sometimes (not in this case, but in others) angry up the blood.