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Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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I think this is a great example of both compromise and overreaction. In the end, they are clearly trying to give students the tools they want, but this should have been the first response, not the second. I can't find it now but the other yale student that wrote the chrome extension was the main catalyst. He took the complaints of Yale and removed them therefore forcing them to find new logic, which they did. Hats of…

That logic was bs from the beginning they just taught they could strong-arm the students into submitting.

It's the typical shoot first ask questions later philosophy that intelligent well educated teachers should never have used.

If they would have addressed their concerns from the beginning to the students i'm certain they would have complied.

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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I did get a chuckle at this backhanded positioning in the very first paragraph (which I highlight in _ _ below). Kind of set the tone of what I expected in the note, but was disappointed to see:

"In retrospect, I agree that we could have been more patient in asking the developers to take down _information they had appropriated without permission_, before taking the actions that we did."

The entire note has an odd, arrogant read to it. If the new tool in fact provided complete comments as well as numeric scores, Yale would have cheered and saluted them ... but because they didn't, Yale shuts it down? Is that really the issue?

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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so will they allow the app now?

As I read the letter, first they're going to stop providing faculty evaluations, and then they're going to set up a bureaucracy overseeing student-developer use of university resources. After that, they may or may not reallow the app, but as the letter points out: > Just this weekend, we learned of a tool that replicates YBB+'s efforts without violating Yale’s appropriate use policy, and that leapfrogs over the harde…

Setting up bureaucracies = we're going to take a long time to figure this out, hopefully long enough for everyone to forget this. Then our crappy committee will get nothing accomplished, except this smokescreen act of course.

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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To that end, the Teaching, Learning, and Advising Committee, which originally brought teaching evaluations online, will take up the question of how to respond to these developments, and the appropriate members of the IT staff, along with the University Registrar, will review our responses to violations of University policy.

In other words, death by committee.

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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post #13

I did get a chuckle at this backhanded positioning in the very first paragraph (which I highlight in _ _ below). Kind of set the tone of what I expected in the note, but was disappointed to see: "In retrospect, I agree that we could have been more patient in asking the developers to take down _information they had appropriated without permission_, before taking the actions that we did." The entire note has an odd, ar…

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Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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post #13

I did get a chuckle at this backhanded positioning in the very first paragraph (which I highlight in _ _ below). Kind of set the tone of what I expected in the note, but was disappointed to see: "In retrospect, I agree that we could have been more patient in asking the developers to take down _information they had appropriated without permission_, before taking the actions that we did." The entire note has an odd, ar…

Yes, I couldn't see the bit that actually constituted an apology.

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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post #18

So it sounds like to me that they are going to eventually take down the detailed evaluations and end it all. Did anyone else get that feeling?

Yep. And it's not over for the people who made this either, I'd wager... This was certainly not much of an apology.

Re: Open letter to the Yale Community from Dean

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post #18

So it sounds like to me that they are going to eventually take down the detailed evaluations and end it all. Did anyone else get that feeling?

Yep. And it's not over for the people who made this either, I'd wager... This was certainly not much of an apology.

Yea I felt like this was sort of a: Hey we acted too quickly, but we understand you like this. It's still not what we want you doing, and you found away around our policies. So we are probably just gonna take it all down and not give you any information.
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