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OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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Useful (non-slashdot) links: Initial ask for help: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138730448307723&w=2 How much it costs: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138972987203440&w=2 Why old hardware platforms matter: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973312304511&w=2 Why not kickstarter: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973837906139&w=2 And most importantly, the donation link: http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/…

  > 20 thousand dollars in electrical expenses [annually?]

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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As a long time FreeBSD user I wish the BSDs would find a way to "unite" in a way, try to put redundant infrastructures in common.

Right now I feel like linux is slowly eating all the market share, if it continues that way the BSDs will regress back to the lines of Hurd and Plan9.

Competition is always a good thing, even in the OSS world.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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As I commented when this appeared here the other day as: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7059581 The fact this was submitted here and disappeared is kind of indicative of their problems.

Fascinating given the attention that FreeBSD was given (and was able to raise) when posted on HN about their own funding problems.

Many people find Theo de Raadt intolerable, which unfortunately may be affecting some of their Friendly Network Effect™ and, by extension, their fundraising ability (pure speculation, of course).

Supporting them is important given their work on other projects, but it seems like outright dismissing alternatives to someone cutting them a check (e.g., moving the servers, etc.) is also probably limiting the help they're going to receive.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wish they had done an appeal before the end of 2013. I usually do my donations then, when I "close the books" for the year.

They did: > Date: 2013-12-17 18:20:48 It just took a month to have this thread on HN (there were others).

Like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6924644 from 2013-12-18.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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Useful (non-slashdot) links: Initial ask for help: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138730448307723&w=2 How much it costs: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-misc&m=138972987203440&w=2 Why old hardware platforms matter: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973312304511&w=2 Why not kickstarter: http://marc.info/?l=openbsd-tech&m=138973837906139&w=2 And most importantly, the donation link: http://www.openbsdfoundation.org/…

> 20 thousand dollars in electrical expenses [annually?]

> A number of logistical reasons prevents us from moving the machines to another location which might offer space/power for free, so let's not allow the conversation to go that way.

and there's no way that overcoming those logistical reasons would be cheaper than $20,000? at all? okay, well then, I guess that limits your options doesn't it.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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A little bit off topic, but this reminds me again of how much the web needs an easy payment system (as easy as in-app purchases in mobile). EFF, wikipedia, I often see notices or news of things they're doing and think to myself that I should donate. But I'm usually in the middle of something and stopping everything to take out my wallet, get the CC, fill out a form, etc. is just too disruptive. So I try to remind myself to do it later, but then forget.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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A little bit off topic, but this reminds me again of how much the web needs an easy payment system (as easy as in-app purchases in mobile). EFF, wikipedia, I often see notices or news of things they're doing and think to myself that I should donate. But I'm usually in the middle of something and stopping everything to take out my wallet, get the CC, fill out a form, etc. is just too disruptive. So I try to remind mys…

As Bitcoin expands its adoption this will become less of an issue.

Re: OpenBSD will shut down if we do not have the funding to keep the lights on

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As a long time FreeBSD user I wish the BSDs would find a way to "unite" in a way, try to put redundant infrastructures in common. Right now I feel like linux is slowly eating all the market share, if it continues that way the BSDs will regress back to the lines of Hurd and Plan9. Competition is always a good thing, even in the OSS world.

As a Linux user who hasn't dabbled in the BSDs for a long time, I can't but agree about having them around. My first reaction to this headline was to find a donate link, and I don't even have anything running OpenBSD, here or at work. I'm not sure uniting would be a good idea, however; having separate projects focused on separate needs seems to be a good thing to me.
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