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The new Breaker 101 course has launched

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Re: The new Breaker 101 course has launched

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Post by runjake »

daeken wrote: post #10
runjake wrote: post #7

> The only way to go from developer to security professional in 12 weeks. Pretty bold claim. The Offensive Security "Pentesting with Kali Linux" course and its accompanying OSCP certification is very well-regarded in the industry and only half the cost of Breaker 101 at $1,150 for the course materials, 90 days of lab time, and certification. Everyone in the industry knows about the OSCP course. It's very hands-on. Th…

That statement should've read "web security professional"; just fixed and pushed. You're right, there are courses out there to teach you a broad spectrum of security topics, including some web content. That said, Breaker 101 covers a pretty crazy breadth and depth. The web topics covered in OffSec's course are covered in the first few weeks of Breaker 101, with significantly deeper excursions and more advanced topics…

  > That statement should've read "web security professional"
Right, so I can buy the PWK course and their Advanced Web Exploitation course and still come out paying less.

  > OffSec's course is good for a very broad-strokes overview of security, but it doesn't dive deep,
Are you kidding? It dives pretty deep. Your website says "Each week will require between 2-3 hours of work by the students". That's how many hours are required per day in the PWK course if you want to complete the materials within 90 days.

Your course claims to require a time commitment of 2-3 hours a week, but let's up it to 5 hours required. That's still only 60 hours of (expected) course time.

Contrast that with the OSCP course (35 days 12) of 180 hours. 60 hours to cover and do hands-on for a broad range of web attacks and also deal with "in-depth" crypto breaking? And this course is targeted at a beginner?

You make a lot of claims and charge a lot of money but they don't seem to stand up and that's going to arouse a lot of perceptions like mine from the security world. Everyone is very suspicious of snake oil claims.

Sorry, I don't mean to rain on your parade. I hope you are successful and push the security industry forward. It's just rather annoying to see you show up to the party and make rather bold claims that don't seem to hold up to scrutiny.

Re: The new Breaker 101 course has launched

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Post by m0s »

m0s wrote: post #14

$2000? Thanks, but no thanks

Let me explain my position a bit. This thing looks cheap. I'm not talking about visual appeal, i'm talking about content. Website does not explain at all, why I should pay you $2k, as well as at the first look you cannot say at all, is this course free or not. So basically it looks like you are collecting emails.

Re: The new Breaker 101 course has launched

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Post by tehskylark »

daeken wrote: post #9
tehskylark wrote: post #6

Would you say this is only for entry level pentesters? In my case I work as a professional application pentester but I'm looking for training to help me "get to the next level". Currently I'm looking at Offensive Security's OSWE or SANS Advanced Web Pentesting, but I like the idea of an extended course with 1 on 1 interaction.

While most of the material is aimed at those with little-to-no security experience, the second half of the class is above the level of most pentesters. If topics like advanced exploitation, WAF attacks, cryptography failings (ECB block reordering, padding oracle attacks, hash length extensions, etc) are of interest to you, I think you'd enjoy the class. But it all depends on where you're at and what you're looking to…

Thanks, yeah it sounds like the second half of the course would definitely be interesting. I won't be able to do the course this time around but I'll keep an eye out for future offerings. Might you consider an advanced course in the future? :)
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