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Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by McGlockenshire »

k3oni wrote: post #6

I am not sure if i feel happy or not about this. I just hope they don't go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration. I don't see what interest has RH into Centos except for trying to disrupt the base and push that way more businesses and customers to RH. Maybe i'm just biased but Centos is doing pretty good in my opinion except maybe the late code changes and updates.

> I just hope they don't go the Fedora way on mangling, moving and changing everything around with every iteration.

Why would they? CentOS is RHEL, they'll ship whatever RHEL ships.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by koenigdavidmj »

geekowl wrote: post #8

I see this as RH not wanting competition and/or wanting to somehow control CentOS. It's no wonder, honestly, that Debian is gaining in popularity as they are the last of the main Linux distros who control their own destiny. I feel very awkward about this news.

The absolute worst that can happen is a return to the state of today. Also, CentOS didn't do anything new and creative and visionary that all. Their goal from the beginning was to replicate RHEL with all the non-free bits (mostly artwork and trademarks) replaced.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by justincormack »

Keyframe wrote: post #5

So, in general nothing much will change for users? Red Hat is introducing stability by employing core developers to work solely on CentOS and possibly streamlining changes between RHEL CentOS. Or, if you prefer to view it like that, Red Hat is exercising more direct control over CentOS.

The comment below https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=7020134 says build and test in centos will open up, which is great news.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by stock_toaster »

Keyframe wrote: post #5

So, in general nothing much will change for users? Red Hat is introducing stability by employing core developers to work solely on CentOS and possibly streamlining changes between RHEL CentOS. Or, if you prefer to view it like that, Red Hat is exercising more direct control over CentOS.

> So, in general nothing much will change for users?

Sounds like the CentOS QA process will be more transparent.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by Nux »

geekowl wrote: post #8

I see this as RH not wanting competition and/or wanting to somehow control CentOS. It's no wonder, honestly, that Debian is gaining in popularity as they are the last of the main Linux distros who control their own destiny. I feel very awkward about this news.

Don't worry, be happy. CentOS was never real competition to RH, instead it was providing an invaluable ecosystem. In a way RH always controlled CentOS since the latter is just a clone.

If CentOS gets shitty you can always move to SL, Puias etc or make your own.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by keithpeter »

geekowl wrote: post #8

I see this as RH not wanting competition and/or wanting to somehow control CentOS. It's no wonder, honestly, that Debian is gaining in popularity as they are the last of the main Linux distros who control their own destiny. I feel very awkward about this news.

I know what you mean about 'feeling awkward'.

But think: how could Red Hat 'control' CentOS when CentOS is simply a clone of RHEL produced from the srpms that Red Hat have to distribute under the terms of the GPL?

As Karanbir says, 'we retain an upstream'.

There are other clones: Scientific Linux (CERN/Fermilabs and a lot of Universities) and Springdale Linux (Princeton/Institute of Advanced Study) are two other RHEL clones. And of course, there is Oracle Linux, a third clone, and one that provides commercial support.

Re: CentOS Project joins forces with Red Hat

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Post by McGlockenshire »

lvillani wrote: post #7

I really wish that, when RHEL/CentOS branches from Fedora to make a new release, they would also keep and provide a snapshot of Fedora's repository at that time, just like what Ubuntu does when they sync with Debian Sid (i.e.: packages in 'main' and 'restricted' repos are supported, all other packages in the Debian archive are imported and made available in 'universe' and 'multiverse' repository for your convenience)…

> I really wish that, when RHEL/CentOS branches from Fedora to make a new release, they would also keep a snapshot of Fedora's repository at that time

It isn't always so easy. I don't know what RHEL7 is like, but for 6 and 5 there wasn't a complete correlation between a Fedora release and a RHEL release. For example, 6 is mostly based on Fedora 12, except for a bunch of backports from 13 and a few from 14.

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