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[ask hn]How many of you are dropouts?

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Re: [ask hn]How many of you are dropouts?

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This might answer your question? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_college_dropout_billion...

Compare with http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forbes_list_of_billionaires

Good to look at both data sets, but it is possible there is no correlation to being a billionaire and going to college - no way to tell without a constrained environment as there are a billion variables (wealth of the parents, grades in school, etc).

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If you want to be successful, one of the things you've to learn is how to stack the odds in favour of you, and that is by squeezing every opportunity you have. Being in college, meeting all those people, networking all that, in addition to the certificate you'll get at the end, will all contribute to that.

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I dropped out super early. Worked for some software companies, built some internets. Trying to get a US visa now, the decision to not get a degree is pretty bitter. That said, this is the first and I optimistically anticipate the last time a degree would have been any use to me, so I'll just power through and hope for the best.

For h1bs, most areas do almost require someone competent to have gone through a degree program in that field. You can't exactly self learn biochemistry or semiconductor process engineering because of he the tremendous equipment needs.

Software is a huge anomaly because it is so ear easily self learnable. The supposition that someone good at it needing a degree is patently false. It's really a shame. I know a few people with things like psychology degrees who are proficient programmers, and their path to a visa is not straightforward :(

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's probably true for a largish percentage, but it's a huge generalisation that does nothing to actually help OP with his question.

Well the advice here would be to reflect if they wanted to drop out of college, because it's not challenging or because it is too challenging.

Or because it's too expensive. Or it's getting in the way of more important things. Or too stressful. Or someone at the uni is making their life miserable. Or one of the other 10 million reasons that people drop out.

To presume that this decision is entirely motivated by how hard uni is is astonishingly naive, imo.

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I dropped out super early. Worked for some software companies, built some internets. Trying to get a US visa now, the decision to not get a degree is pretty bitter. That said, this is the first and I optimistically anticipate the last time a degree would have been any use to me, so I'll just power through and hope for the best.

For h1bs, most areas do almost require someone competent to have gone through a degree program in that field. You can't exactly self learn biochemistry or semiconductor process engineering because of he the tremendous equipment needs. Software is a huge anomaly because it is so ear easily self learnable. The supposition that someone good at it needing a degree is patently false. It's really a shame. I know a few peop…

For l1b there's no actual visa requirement, but the burden of proof for eligibility is still set incredibly high.

I understand to some degree the rationale behind the absurd process, at the same time it's incredibly frustrating to have a company that wants me here, and no avenue or realistic end in sight to make it happen.

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Are you looking for some kind of confirmation for dropping out? Higher education doesn't guarantee success, but it probably doesn't hurt. If you have the practical means to stay in school, just do it. And take advantage of it. For the amount of effort you have to put into it, you do get quite a lot back in terms of self confidence, how other people perceive you, social network..etc. And if you actually try to activel…

Exactly my thinking. Taking huge risks later is (theoretically) also easier if you've got a degree behind your name because you've got something semi-marketable if things go sideways.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well the advice here would be to reflect if they wanted to drop out of college, because it's not challenging or because it is too challenging.

Or because it's too expensive. Or it's getting in the way of more important things. Or too stressful. Or someone at the uni is making their life miserable. Or one of the other 10 million reasons that people drop out. To presume that this decision is entirely motivated by how hard uni is is astonishingly naive, imo.

Oh damn, I wanted to reply to the dropout/billionaire comment. sry!

Re: [ask hn]How many of you are dropouts?

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I didn't drop out, but i changed profession - had i gotten a programming education i'd probably fare better.

That said, i'm making a good living on my company anyway.

Luckily, running an IT company is not only about programming but also about people skills, finding the right clients and fulfilling their needs.

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