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U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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Depends on definition of "notebook". I would assume it is different from laptop, netbook, ultabook and tablet.

No, it appears to be identical to "laptop" actually. Based on other news reports that use the same NPD data. Definitely an easy to misunderstand term, but maybe it's the norm in the commercial sector which is what they cover here, not the entire market?

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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And yet, as Gruber points out, they are just a rounding error in web browser usage. [1] If they're that successful, why don't Chromebooks appear in usage stats? 1. http://daringfireball.net/linked/2013/12/28/chromebooks

Because the stat is unreliable.

That. Or, people buy Chromebooks, realize they're no better than the [tablet|"real" laptop|PC] they already own, and don't use them much?

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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Great! Now, where are the mid-range chromebooks? With a decent display and some additional processing power?

Check out the Pixel[0]. It has a great display but is horribly overpriced in my opinion

[0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pix...

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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Bought Chromebooks (and Chromecasts) for all my tech-illiterate family members in order to cut down on having to provide tech support, and it's been amazing. No issues so far, and everything just works. I think that actually is just fine for most companies -- less tech support, and does everything they need (collaborative documents, email, web searches, etc).

I suggested that a 65 year old I knew that frequently had computer issues (and asked me for support) but only surfed the web and used gmail consider getting a Chromebook. Several months after the purchase I was thanked and told it was working out great. E-mail is an important point: typing anything more than a sentence on an iPad isn't very nice.

My suggestions to consider using OS X rather than Windows have never worked because there are no low-cost OS X options.

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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...in "commercial markets". As far as I can tell, that does not include consumer and would make the headline extremely misleading. So a bunch of companies decided to buy ChromeBooks, presumably without asking their employees.

This was discussed yesterday and the numbers do seem fishy. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6977640

This is HN and many of us run sites. Why don't we post ChromeOS stats?

I'll start. For a completely nontech related site, for the last month, out of 117K visits, here is the breakdown for #7 to 10

Linux 782

Windows Phone 565

Series40 407

Chrome OS 224

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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post #13

Great! Now, where are the mid-range chromebooks? With a decent display and some additional processing power?

Check out the Pixel[0]. It has a great display but is horribly overpriced in my opinion [0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pix...

Sure :)

I was hoping for something between the Rolls and the Yugo

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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post #13

Great! Now, where are the mid-range chromebooks? With a decent display and some additional processing power?

Check out the Pixel[0]. It has a great display but is horribly overpriced in my opinion [0] https://www.google.com/intl/en/chrome/devices/chromebook-pix...

Why is the pixel "horribly overpriced"? The hardware is better than a MBA, imo. If there were drivers for win 8, it would be my next notebook.

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the stat is unreliable.

How is it unreliable, and how is the margin of error so bad that these are a no-show?

Because web usage statistics are hard to get right, and hard to interpret even if you do a good job on data collection.

To get a reliable sample of web traffic as a whole you'll need to recruit most of the larger websites (Yahoo!, Google, Wikipedia, etc.), and a sampling of second and third tier sites and then process the data taking into account that browsers lie and that all of your sites that you are sampling are going to be biased in one direction or another. Google for instance probably sees a higher share of chrome than similar sized sites. Add to which there is no standard way of distinguishing browsers other than by looking at the User-Agent string which is error prone and not guaranteed to be an accurate representation.

Re: U.S. Commercial Computing Device Sales Set to End 2013 with Double-Digit Growth

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post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Because the stat is unreliable.

That. Or, people buy Chromebooks, realize they're no better than the [tablet|"real" laptop|PC] they already own, and don't use them much?

Or they do use them just not much because it's not the heavy users who buy them?
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