Happened with me too,few days back I got a notification about some payment into my account by Google Admob and an email about refund, I thought it must be some unused fund but yesterday I got another notification about google taking it back! I was puzzled that is it my bank account or google's, they seem to be doing whatever they want with it.
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#12Does anybody have a good explanation of how credit card charge limits actually work? I once had Jet Airways mistakenly charge me $30,000 (in two installments of $15,000) on a card that had a limit of $14,000, and while I was unable to use the card afterwards, the original charge should not have been possible in the first place. When I called the bank to complain, all they could say is that it was an "offline" transac…
The entire system is designed so banks implicitly trust each other. As with anything else, as a business grows you eventually start cutting out middlemen to reduce costs. Eventually large players are treated effectively as banks themselves, and can push any transaction they want into the network. As long as things total out correctly at the end of the day between individual banks, nobody really gets in trouble.
It ends up being a lot more complicated than that (as everything in banking is), but that is the general idea.
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#13The biggest issue I have with this is Google's practically non-existent customer service.
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#14I'm unaffected by this as I have never used Admob but I wonder which imbecile at Google thought it was a good idea to mess with payments and push/pull money out of people's bank/Paypal accounts around Christmas holidays? I feel bad for all those affected knowing that there's virtually no way to get any kind of customer service from Google.
It may have something to do with the transition from "old" to "new" Admob. Advertisers can request refunds for unused funds from the "old" Admob, maybe that job had a bug and refunded everything. Makes you wonder how that's possible for a company that has the supposedly brightest of the best developers.
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#15I noticed a bunch of debits and credits to my credit card yesterday relating to admob. I never initiated these so I feared that my credit card was stolen. I searched around and saw this link that described my issue. Apparently google has authorization to credit and debit our credit cards at will. They also do not bother to email you to let you know what is going on. And of course, no google customer service. It also…
If they didn't process the take backs as reversals, you can dispute the transactions.
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Hmm... do you lose miles for refunds that are not linked with the original transaction?
I assume so, someone would have gamed that a long time ago otherwise.
I'm actually curious about this. You can refund without having an original charge. This is exactly how Square's new payment system is working. This is simply because a refund is not canceling the original withdrawal, rather it's depositing the original transaction amount back. I'm not quite sure how a credit card company could determine the exact transaction link (other than just comparing merchant and transaction amounts). Maybe they just deduct the base points rate on the deposited amount. I then wonder how they would handle if I bought a TV during a promotion for a bonus 3% points and then returned it.
However, I wonder what would happen if I were to send money from my actual credit card to my Google Wallet (with no fees until Jan 6th, unless extended), and then use the Google Wallet card to use Square to send the money back to my bank account using my debit card. If I wanted to slow the process I could use a bank transfer from Google wallet. Of course there are daily/weekly limits for both of these but it's a method I think would work.
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#18I noticed a bunch of debits and credits to my credit card yesterday relating to admob. I never initiated these so I feared that my credit card was stolen. I searched around and saw this link that described my issue. Apparently google has authorization to credit and debit our credit cards at will. They also do not bother to email you to let you know what is going on. And of course, no google customer service. It also…
If this ends up costing you even $1, I would dispute it based on principle. And would not be surprised if a class action lawyer gets interested in extracting some compensation from Google.
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#19I'm unaffected by this as I have never used Admob but I wonder which imbecile at Google thought it was a good idea to mess with payments and push/pull money out of people's bank/Paypal accounts around Christmas holidays? I feel bad for all those affected knowing that there's virtually no way to get any kind of customer service from Google.
It may have something to do with the transition from "old" to "new" Admob. Advertisers can request refunds for unused funds from the "old" Admob, maybe that job had a bug and refunded everything. Makes you wonder how that's possible for a company that has the supposedly brightest of the best developers.
I wonder if there is much of a difference in engineering talent between the advertising products (AdSense, AdWords, Admob, etc) side of Google compared to the consumer and business product divisions (search, maps, G+, docs, etc) and data center engineering.
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I assume so, someone would have gamed that a long time ago otherwise.
I'm actually curious about this. You can refund without having an original charge. This is exactly how Square's new payment system is working. This is simply because a refund is not canceling the original withdrawal, rather it's depositing the original transaction amount back. I'm not quite sure how a credit card company could determine the exact transaction link (other than just comparing merchant and transaction am…
If it works, it's somewhere in here: http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/manufactured-spending-719/