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Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by ilamont » Mon, Dec 23, 2013, 4:25 PM UTC

lwhalen wrote: post #8

w_t_payne wrote: post #5

EMC owns RSA -- Can we trust EMC?

lol, absolutely not. I worked there for a year, and I still have a lot of friends who work there. EMC is absolutely not to be trusted - who do you think is supplying the storage for the NSA datacenters, specifically their 'big boy' out in Utah?

Photos of the Utah data center, located 25 miles from Salt Lake City:

http://www.hangthebankers.com/pictures-of-the-new-2-billion-...

Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by alrs » Mon, Dec 23, 2013, 5:22 PM UTC

lwhalen wrote: post #8

w_t_payne wrote: post #5

EMC owns RSA -- Can we trust EMC?

lol, absolutely not. I worked there for a year, and I still have a lot of friends who work there. EMC is absolutely not to be trusted - who do you think is supplying the storage for the NSA datacenters, specifically their 'big boy' out in Utah?

I would love to hear how many Pivotal people have resigned over this.

Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by fiatmoney » Mon, Dec 23, 2013, 5:30 PM UTC

ig1 wrote: post #4

It's basically a non-denial, they don't deny that they took money in exchange for using the backdoored algorithm. If they took the money and didn't know the algo was backdoored both the original allegation and denial could be factually correct.

Even if they "didn't know", it's still commercial fraud. Had it been known that the NSA paid them for their choice of algorithm, there is no way a sane IT purchaser would have bought their solution, whether or not there was explicit knowledge of a backdoor.

Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by feebot » Mon, Dec 23, 2013, 6:10 PM UTC

codeflo wrote: post #6

ig1 wrote: post #4

It's basically a non-denial, they don't deny that they took money in exchange for using the backdoored algorithm. If they took the money and didn't know the algo was backdoored both the original allegation and denial could be factually correct.

I have admire the careful wording: "We also categorically state that we have never entered into any contract or engaged in any project with the intention of weakening RSA's products, or introducing potential 'backdoors' into our products for anyone's use." This leaves the door open for a lot of things, including them having weakened their products and added backdoors. They just deny having entered a contract with the…

My guess would be the RSA wanted more government contracts and the NSA said they would have to implement the government preferred algo as the default. The NSA will also pay you for these efforts. RSA would see that is win-win. They are getting paid to implement the gov standard AND it will help them win contracts in the future. Only a fool would say no to that.

Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by a3n » Mon, Dec 23, 2013, 7:00 PM UTC

ilamont wrote: post #11

lwhalen wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol, absolutely not. I worked there for a year, and I still have a lot of friends who work there. EMC is absolutely not to be trusted - who do you think is supplying the storage for the NSA datacenters, specifically their 'big boy' out in Utah?

Photos of the Utah data center, located 25 miles from Salt Lake City: http://www.hangthebankers.com/pictures-of-the-new-2-billion-...

Rest assured, regardless which if any NSA reforms are enacted, they will never stop collecting the quantity of data needed to justify that data center. If mass collection is retained, but imperceptibly reformed by having the carriers collect and "store" the data, then the Utah center will be made available as a "public service" to implement the physical storage.

Re: RSA denies link with US spying agency

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Post by lwhalen » Tue, Dec 24, 2013, 6:39 AM UTC

alrs wrote: post #12

lwhalen wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

lol, absolutely not. I worked there for a year, and I still have a lot of friends who work there. EMC is absolutely not to be trusted - who do you think is supplying the storage for the NSA datacenters, specifically their 'big boy' out in Utah?

I would love to hear how many Pivotal people have resigned over this.

Pivotal people?