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Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

#11

Post by davidw » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 9:51 AM UTC

> a pre-adolescent in-the-brain-out-the-mouth reporting style.

Pot. Kettle. Black.

His writing style plays for cheap laughs by insulting people, but that can only go so far. After a while, don't people grow up and get tired of that kind of thing? "Mike Arrington is a doody-head! Hah hah! Poop!"

Were one to look at his actual point, one might also go back 30 years and wonder if those silly upstarts at Microsoft with their "pee sees" have a chance against serious mainframes, with the millions of lines of code already written for them.

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by froo » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 9:51 AM UTC

trezor wrote: post #7

froo wrote: post #2

I was agreeing up with him to this point. "Keep whackin' away on that Pareto Principle and let us all know how it turns out. In the meantime, I'm going to go play a few rounds of Counterstrike on my Windows-based PC" That's one way to kill your own argument about technical knowledge superiority. Counterstrike? seriously? Windows can be forgiven... but counterstrike?

How does a preference in games (or, more likely, choosing a game absolutely everyone would know about for a sarcastic remark) in any way relate to technical knowledge?

Look, I agree it was a sarcastic remark - but if you're going to take any sort of high ground (which is why I used the technical superiority comment, even though it was probably a poor choice of words) to sum up your argument, at least use something that doesn't have connotations of overzealous teens whose primary goal in life is to tell each other to F off.

It demeans his argument from a scathing piece (which I mostly agree with) to a blatant rant...

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by trezor » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 9:57 AM UTC

pufuwozu wrote: post #10

It doesn't seem like a lot of people have connected the parts together yet. Google Gears, Native Client and Chrome are all parts to making the web MORE than what it already is. Think about it. At the moment we are constrained to HTML, CSS and JavaScript. With the technologies being put together by Google you can easily have downloadable native applications that run through Chrome. I'm doubting that Google is just goi…

So basically what you are saying is that google plan to "embrace and extend" the web?

While this may be a step which is required to bring the web as a platform forwards, I'm not sure I like the sound of that either.

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by trezor » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 10:17 AM UTC

froo wrote: post #12

trezor wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a preference in games (or, more likely, choosing a game absolutely everyone would know about for a sarcastic remark) in any way relate to technical knowledge?

Look, I agree it was a sarcastic remark - but if you're going to take any sort of high ground (which is why I used the technical superiority comment, even though it was probably a poor choice of words) to sum up your argument, at least use something that doesn't have connotations of overzealous teens whose primary goal in life is to tell each other to F off. It demeans his argument from a scathing piece (which I most…

I take it you have not seen this Halo commercial then :)

http://www.break.com/index/best-halo-3-trailer.html

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by mahmud » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 10:52 AM UTC

Proof that you can lead a horse to water, but you can't punch him in the dick without being brought up on assault and battery charges.

This phrase, alone, makes me wanna buy a Real News Paper subscribtion. I never read such profanity reading the Washington Post.

Why perform inexpensive literary contortions, and dive face first into pie just to make me laugh, Ted Dziuba?

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by pavlov » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 11:37 AM UTC

davidw wrote: post #11

> a pre-adolescent in-the-brain-out-the-mouth reporting style. Pot. Kettle. Black. His writing style plays for cheap laughs by insulting people, but that can only go so far. After a while, don't people grow up and get tired of that kind of thing? "Mike Arrington is a doody-head! Hah hah! Poop!" Were one to look at his actual point, one might also go back 30 years and wonder if those silly upstarts at Microsoft with t…

Were one to look at his actual point, one might also go back 30 years and wonder if those silly upstarts at Microsoft with their "pee sees" have a chance against serious mainframes, with the millions of lines of code already written for them.

That comparison would only make sense if mainframes and PCs cost essentially the same, used the same hardware platform, and the mainframe could run all the software as the PC (but not the other way around).

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by greyman » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 12:55 PM UTC

trezor wrote: post #6

This had me laughing: The canonical example of failure in tech journalism is TechCrunch, a blog that once declared Google's MapReduce to be a system that "reduced the links found on the web into a map that search algorithms could run over." Yes, this will do nicely. While you could say that The register obviously would have an "agenda" to discredit other competing sites, I honestly find The register, despite the snar…

TC have been publishing good articles, mediocre articles and quite bad articles. But calling them failure is laughable, I think it's a result of envy combined with fear. TC is their serious competitor, and they know it. If for nothing else, they are usually able to break stories sooner than others. IMHO, Register should better find a ways to improve themselves, their work is not that impressive either.

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by theoneill » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 1:01 PM UTC

greyman wrote: post #17

trezor wrote: post #6

This had me laughing: The canonical example of failure in tech journalism is TechCrunch, a blog that once declared Google's MapReduce to be a system that "reduced the links found on the web into a map that search algorithms could run over." Yes, this will do nicely. While you could say that The register obviously would have an "agenda" to discredit other competing sites, I honestly find The register, despite the snar…

TC have been publishing good articles, mediocre articles and quite bad articles. But calling them failure is laughable, I think it's a result of envy combined with fear. TC is their serious competitor, and they know it. If for nothing else, they are usually able to break stories sooner than others. IMHO, Register should better find a ways to improve themselves, their work is not that impressive either.

It's not The Register that has an obsession with TechCrunch, but this particular writer.

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by jsonscripter » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 1:20 PM UTC

trezor wrote: post #13

pufuwozu wrote: post #10

It doesn't seem like a lot of people have connected the parts together yet. Google Gears, Native Client and Chrome are all parts to making the web MORE than what it already is. Think about it. At the moment we are constrained to HTML, CSS and JavaScript. With the technologies being put together by Google you can easily have downloadable native applications that run through Chrome. I'm doubting that Google is just goi…

So basically what you are saying is that google plan to "embrace and extend" the web? While this may be a step which is required to bring the web as a platform forwards, I'm not sure I like the sound of that either.

Sounds fine to me. They aren't locking you into anything. All their technologies are open and free, it's just that no other companies can offer Google's quality and breadth.

Re: If you add an OS to Chrome, it's an OS

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Post by davidw » Thu, Jul 09, 2009, 2:13 PM UTC

pavlov wrote: post #16

davidw wrote: post #11

> a pre-adolescent in-the-brain-out-the-mouth reporting style. Pot. Kettle. Black. His writing style plays for cheap laughs by insulting people, but that can only go so far. After a while, don't people grow up and get tired of that kind of thing? "Mike Arrington is a doody-head! Hah hah! Poop!" Were one to look at his actual point, one might also go back 30 years and wonder if those silly upstarts at Microsoft with t…

Were one to look at his actual point, one might also go back 30 years and wonder if those silly upstarts at Microsoft with their "pee sees" have a chance against serious mainframes, with the millions of lines of code already written for them. That comparison would only make sense if mainframes and PCs cost essentially the same, used the same hardware platform, and the mainframe could run all the software as the PC (b…

It's not an exact comparison. What I'm pointing out is that disruptive innovations are often like this:

> In terms of functionality, web apps have been a regression from their desktop counterparts.

They're not better - at least not initially. They're good enough.

Will web apps follow that path and displace desktop apps? Maybe, maybe not, but it's not as ridiculous a concept as the rant makes it out to be.